News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by ClumsyPilot on Thursday February 10, 2022 @09:41AM (#30286654)
"I can imagine it would add at least 20% to their operating costs."

Why is everybody working on the assumption that all this data has to sit in the US?

Keep it in a country with the strict-est possible privacy laws, say Switzerland, and noone would complain.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by rolisz on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:06AM (#30287092)
Hah, it's a myth that Switzerland is so privacy oriented. They have laws saying that the Swiss intelligence services can access all data, so it wouldn't help.

And Switzerland is not part of the EU.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by jeffbee on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:15AM (#30287244)
Both Swiss and German people seem completely deluded about the activities of their own governments and intelligence agencies.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by freeflight on Thursday February 10, 2022 @01:25PM (#30290394)
You gonna have to be a bit more specific than that.

When I think "Swiss", "Germany" and "government intelligence agencies" then the things that come to my mind are Crypto AG [0], how the BND started out as a CIA OP [1] and how the very same BND seems to be more interested in pleasing American interests than protecting Germans [2].

Which is btw the same BND who cooperates with the NSA [3] to help them tap directly into one of the world's largest IXP De-CIX, completely legal in Germany [4].

The US made sure of that by pressuring the West German government into watering down the G-10 law [5] during the cold war.

So whatever "delusions" you are referring there to, you have to be a bit more concrete about them.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/11/crypto-ag-ci...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehlen_Organization

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON#Examples_of_industrial...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eikonal

[4] https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/de-cix-betreiber...

[5] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/document/activities/cont/2014...

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by zwaps on Thursday February 10, 2022 @12:43PM (#30289807)
Why tho? Do you think German citizens have more privacy in Germany than in the US, where the US legislature clearly states that non US citizens have zero privacy rights whatsoever?

I don't think it's delusion, I think it is literally correct.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by jimbob45 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @11:22AM (#30288440)
Right now, the data sits where it “loses” the least amount of money (I.e. where it is most efficiently spaced). If we start arbitrarily forcing companies to move their data elsewhere, then they’ll incur serious costs without any real benefit.

I’d almost rather just give a French company control over some section of the US warehouse if I’m Amazon.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by londons_explore on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:09AM (#30287126)
Plenty of US organisations couldn't use a cloud service that loudly proclaimed to store the data outside the USA.