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Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right by onion2k on Thursday February 10, 2022 @03:38AM (#30283714)
With all its flaws America is the only country where you can dream of building spaceships...

Pedantically, literally anyone anywhere can dream of building spaceships. But let's examine that claim on the basis of people who have actually done it.

- Musk has, but he's South African.

- Bezos crossed the Kármán line so he's done it, but he hasn't reached orbit yet so calling New Shepherd a 'spaceship' is a slightly dubious claim.

- Branson hasn't either and he's British anyway.

- Carmack isn't in the news for space stuff any more, so maybe he's given up?

Looking at the evidence of 'billionaires and their space toys', I think 'not Americans' are a little ahead.

Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right by kortilla on Thursday February 10, 2022 @04:14AM (#30283957)
> Musk has, but he's South African.

Musk is a US citizen and he did all of this in the US. The point is about the opportunity provided by the country, not about where you were raised.

Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right by onion2k on Thursday February 10, 2022 @04:48AM (#30284198)
He moved to the US when he was 19. He didn't grow up with "the American Dream".
Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right by majani on Thursday February 10, 2022 @07:38AM (#30285238)
He moved to the US after reading a lot of tech publications and realizing that that's where all the action was
Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right by arafatamim on Thursday February 10, 2022 @06:13AM (#30284696)
Musk was born wealthy. So I'd say he grew up with more than "the American Dream"