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Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by anonporridge on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @07:25PM (#30266874)
Depends.

Some industrial customers like datacenters have strict availability agreements with customers and won't be able to accept prolonged cutoffs.

Forcing non residential customers like these to curtail their use would likely end up driving the industry (and corresponding tax revenue) elsewhere.

But what you're talking about does already exist, and it's called demand response, https://www.energy.gov/oe/activities/technology-development/...

Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by cortesoft on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @07:33PM (#30266954)
If people are freezing in their homes, then damn any availability agreement a datacenter has.
Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by anonporridge on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @07:41PM (#30267023)
I'm inclined to agree, because I think our civilization should exist to serve humanity, not use humanity simply as another disposable cog in the machine.

But that's not the way our legal and political system actually works.

Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by epgui on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @07:54PM (#30267155)
I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying, but you’re confusing “what is” for “what ought to be”. It’s Hume’s classic “is-ought problem”.

Edit: I’ve interpreted the second part of your comment as an objection to the first part, but if that wasn’t the intended message it’s my bad :)

Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by anonporridge on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @08:03PM (#30267240)
I don't think I'm confusing the two.

I'm suggesting that what I think ought to be the way the world works in fact is not the way it actually works.

This is a criticism of our current system, not using it as a reason to dismiss the idea of changing it to something better.

Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by ceejayoz on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @09:11PM (#30267790)
Agreed, but one hopes said datacenter isn't hosting, say, the utility company's dispatching systems...
Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by politician on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @10:34PM (#30268445)
If you shut down the datacenter, then all of the folks that rely on IoT-controlled furnaces will freeze in _their_ homes!
Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by danans on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @11:33PM (#30268854)
Smart thermostats all fall back to offline manual operation.
Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by x86_64Ubuntu on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @10:39PM (#30268480)
I'm sorry, but that's on the datacenter provider to put their operations in such a free-market state. The fact that we would suggest that datacenters be allowed to run freely, and then tell residents that they need to stock up on batteries as opposed to mandating a winterized network is kind of appalling.
Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by vel0city on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @09:07PM (#30267752)
Datacenters should be able to stay online even with a full power cut. If your datacenter can't go days without mains power, you need to move datacenters.
Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by nine_k on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @09:26PM (#30267928)
This is reasonable, but the grid should support such separation then. Each building needs to be connected to a known tier of power grid, and parts of one building may need different tiers: e.g. an ICU that should stay powered no matter what vs the rest of the clinic that could afford to lose power without hurting anyone.

Unless it's already built, it's rather expensive to rebuild.

Re:Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design by 8note on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @11:45PM (#30268942)
I don't think residential customers are any less strict with their minimum needs.