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Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by PragmaticPulp on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @02:15PM (#30263084)
> It's the government trying to enforce their opinion of who should own those Bitcoins, thereby taking power away from the owner that the network has decided on, which would be "whoever has the cryptographic keys".

I really don't understand these arguments.

The law still applies whether or not you use cryptocurrency. Using cryptocurrency doesn't free someone from the consequences of their actions.

Illegal acts are still illegal acts.

Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by initplus on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @03:59PM (#30264610)
If we have the government to weigh in on which transactions are legitimate or not, why do we need a distributed ledger? Cryptocurrencies are trustless, but if we can trust the government to rule on ownership fairly why do we need a trustless system?
Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by Barrin92 on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @04:14PM (#30264804)
>why do we need a distributed ledger?

well the most obvious answer to that question is, we don't.

Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by birracerveza on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @03:58AM (#30270515)
And it's obviously a wrong answer.
Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by briantakita on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @07:31PM (#30266930)
Why do we need fiat currency where self-interested parties inflate the currency & pay themselves?
Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by johnsonlambo on Thursday February 17, 2022 @05:39PM (#30379677)
To say crypto isn't being inflated by behind the scenes players or right in your face players for a matter of fact is wishful thinking. Look at how bitfinex and tether operate. Artificially pumping the price of bitcoin by purchasing with newly printed tether that many sources point to isn't actually backed by money as they claim. Same goes for many of these stable coins. The crypto industry is controlled by a powerful cartel of wealthy figures who use bought influencers and pay for play media outlets. BTC and others are the easiest way for new entities to scam the proletariat. This is no revolution of the common citizen. When a select few own the majority of btc how can one surmise that it is invented for all. For example, one btc maximalist I know claims a 100 million dollar btc is on the way. So we will have a couple thousand btc trillionaires, what a utopian vision.
Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by shenman on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @01:49AM (#30269722)
Isn't crypto plagued with the same problems? Sure fiat isn't perfect but it doesn't look like crypto is solving any of those problems, as exemplified here.
Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by birracerveza on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @08:22AM (#30272296)
You can trust the current government (maybe), but certainly not future ones, in which case we do need a distributed, trustless system.
Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by systemsignal on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @02:37PM (#30263419)
What makes hacking illegal?

What if they acquired the Bitcoin without using illegal means

Probably not possible in this case, but in DeFi where everything is ruled by smart contracts, what would make executing behavior allowed by those contracts illegal.

Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by PeterisP on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @04:56PM (#30265341)
Laws of USA and pretty much every other country reject the notion that "everything is ruled by smart contracts" and assert that legally, as far as their jurisdiction reaches, their law is the deciding factor. Contracts have their basis in contract law. You certainly can write a paper contract which "allows" some illegal behavior, and executing such a contract would be illegal, no matter what the contract says. The same applies for a "smart" contract.
Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by sincerely on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @02:59PM (#30263736)
Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by mtoner23 on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @02:45PM (#30263530)
US Law makes hacking illegal
Re:Feds arrest couple, seize $3.6B in hacked Bitcoin funds by 323 on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @02:55PM (#30263672)
Whatever a judge decides is illegal is illegal.