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Re:Our nation cannot censor its way back to cultural health by belorn on Monday February 07, 2022 @05:25AM (#30242790)
The Rwanda civil war was partially the outcome of colonialism by Germany and later Belgian administration, creating a class society where the rich minority group of Tutsi ruled supreme over the more poor Hutu. Belgium introduced identity cards classifying each individual as Tutsi, Hutu, Twa or Naturalised.

Pretty obviously, such state of affairs wasn't stable. After world war 2 there were several riots and violence, and the Belgium administration attempted to switch side and promote Hutu over Tutsi. A Hutu government emerged and declared themselves independent, and started to purge the Tutsi population. After a few years of wars with nearby countries, instability, and displacement of Tutsi, the Tutsi population formed a armed military force and a civil war broke out. After a couple of years of guerilla wars and temporarily peaces, with neither side winning, the Hutu army/administration decided on the idea of genocide as a final solution to the conflict.

Where in this process did free speech cause the genocide?

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Re:Our nation cannot censor its way back to cultural health by vimy on Monday February 07, 2022 @08:07AM (#30244286)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Lib...
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Re:Our nation cannot censor its way back to cultural health by belorn on Monday February 07, 2022 @09:38AM (#30245422)
The civil war predated the radio station by several years, and the colonialism that shaped the conflict occurred 50-100 years before the radio station was built.

This seems a bit like blaming the atom bomb for causing world war 2.

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Re:Our nation cannot censor its way back to cultural health by scotty79 on Monday February 07, 2022 @06:06AM (#30243137)
In open, freely expressed incitment to genocide that led to it and extended its scale.

Free speech apart from its all wonderfull qualities is an excelent tool for demagogues. They all are pro free speech of things they like.

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Re:Our nation cannot censor its way back to cultural health by kbelder on Monday February 07, 2022 @02:08PM (#30249482)
>They all are pro free speech of things they like

So they're not for free speech.

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Re:Our nation cannot censor its way back to cultural health by scotty79 on Monday February 07, 2022 @05:42PM (#30252444)
About as for free speech as Fox News.
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Re:Our nation cannot censor its way back to cultural health by tekknik on Monday February 07, 2022 @08:39PM (#30253967)
And CNN, WaPo, and basically every other news org out there. But it’s nice that you just called out your enemy!
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Re:Our nation cannot censor its way back to cultural health by scotty79 on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @05:12AM (#30256713)
I'm not from USA so I don't really care. I just named the station that most often contradicts science, defends itself in court by saing they shouldn't be taken seriously because they are entertainment organisation not information organsation and boldly defends free speech when it allows for voicing same manners of idiocies as they do.
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Re:Our nation cannot censor its way back to cultural health by tekknik on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @06:56AM (#30257416)
Ok well intro to news in America, I can point to an instance where every major news organization in this country has disregarded facts. News in America is about selling newspapers, not distributing facts. They’re more like supermarket tabloids (if you don’t know what those are, those are the real fake news, things like lizard people are discussed there). All of them are guilty of the exactly this problem. Which is my point. Yet lefties like yourself only call out Fox News, ignoring CNN, waPo, et al. Not to mention is a bit passive aggressive. You’re not gonna get people to stop watching Fox News, so why spread more passive aggressive hate?

CNN recently, because of all of their “factual reporting”, lost about 90% of their viewership. Trump left, people got bored of Jan 6, and they had nothing else to sensationalize, so their viewership tanked. Interestingly they lost their viewers to Fox News. This is the state of news media in America, and if you’re actually interested in facts and not promoting your side of the narrative you’d easily acknowledge as much.

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