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Re:PHP – The Right Way by gocartStatue on Monday February 07, 2022 @05:01AM (#30242594)
Which by the way is heavily mocked by PHP developers actually using OOP, dependency inversion, hexagonal architecture etc. Which is not the "artisanal" way of development it seems :)
Re:PHP – The Right Way by trwhite on Monday February 07, 2022 @05:13AM (#30242684)
Mocked as in made fun of? Personally (in 7 years as a PHP dev) I've not found this. There was one company I interviewed at where the lead engineer thought facades were dumb, but then couldn't explain why he needed to rebuild the entire backend in Node. Perspective.
Re:PHP – The Right Way by gocartStatue on Monday February 07, 2022 @08:40AM (#30244656)
Yes, made fun of. Philosophy of Laravel crowd seems to be similar to "the rails way", which means a lot of framework-specific solutions, disregard for TDD etc.

Well, static service locators disguised as "facades" are a bad design. Rebuilding entire backend in Node for that reason alone is dumb. Laravel features a PSR-compliant DI container and supports dependency injection with autowiring, you can very well write a nice, decoupled, SOLID code using Laravel. But it's rather not the thing people have in mind when picking it over Symfony or Laminas.

Re:PHP – The Right Way by trwhite on Monday February 07, 2022 @10:58AM (#30246551)
You can of course take a TDD approach with Laravel. I think I know what you're getting at, but I do find the Laravel has a lot out of the box now that I would otherwise have to write from scratch. I suppose the Spatie packages (for example) fill some of those gaps. I hadn't heard of Laminas before
Re:PHP – The Right Way by gocartStatue on Monday February 07, 2022 @11:05AM (#30246665)
Laminas is Zend rebranding :)