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Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by vmception on Saturday February 05, 2022 @03:11PM (#30225366)
Hop into a lightning channel and then back out in a different address. That should theoretically work to break these heuristic models right?

Exchanges are using software that assigns a threshold to each address' inputs or funds. You can easily trick the threshold.

Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by kevinak on Saturday February 05, 2022 @04:34PM (#30226361)
Even better: never leave The lightning network and you’ll never really have these issues
Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by sgp_ on Saturday February 05, 2022 @08:40PM (#30228413)
Largely, no. While the full privacy implications of lightning network use are extremely complicated and still being researched (and the best practices updated with that information), it absolutely is not as simple as open/close channel, done.
Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by 28194608 on Saturday February 05, 2022 @03:24PM (#30225517)
what if the output of lightning came from mixed coins?
Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by toolz on Saturday February 05, 2022 @04:01PM (#30225981)
What if every coin is mixed, eventually? You think exchanges will just shutdown their bitcoin trades and throw away their likely biggest revenue stream?
Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by matheusmoreira on Saturday February 05, 2022 @04:30PM (#30226308)
Exchanges are already prejudiced against "unhosted" wallets. I think they'll eventually stop accepting deposits from any source other than other well known exchanges.
Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by toolz on Saturday February 05, 2022 @04:47PM (#30226512)
I've moved "unhosted" coins into at least 5 different exchanges at this point with zero issues.
Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by captn3m0 on Saturday February 05, 2022 @07:42PM (#30228015)
What if a ransomware group starts to airdrop a few Satoshis to everyone?
Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by hamiltonians on Saturday February 05, 2022 @08:17PM (#30228266)
those can be excluded easily
Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by cliftonk on Saturday February 05, 2022 @03:28PM (#30225565)
Output of a lightning channel is almost certainly more likely to contain mixed coins. The UTXO model is hopelessly outdated.
Re:Bitcoin's fungibility graveyard by toolz on Saturday February 05, 2022 @04:04PM (#30226025)
I strongly disagree, UTXO model will be necessary to scale smart contract platforms in the future as the account model will never hold up with the necessarily expensive sync operations it performs.

UTXO model, or a derivative will win out when it comes to distributed blockchains that can scale way beyond current distributed blockchains capacity.