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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by codecutter on Saturday February 05, 2022 @09:48AM (#30221563)
Instead of asking government to have no-fly list, what doesn't each airline have its own list? They are private businesses and should be able to decide their customers, just like customers can refuse to do business with certain companies.
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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by _0ffh on Saturday February 05, 2022 @09:57AM (#30221668)
Just what I thought! When someone's a sufficiently bloody nuisance, ban them from the airline for some time. What is it with people who think everything must be done by gov't?
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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by dkubb on Saturday February 05, 2022 @11:45AM (#30222892)
Also, why don't they share the lists with each other? They don't need government help to do this.

If there are privacy issues then they could just share a list of hashes and if someone's legal name hashes to something on the list then you deny them.

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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by rafale on Saturday February 05, 2022 @11:54AM (#30222995)
In pure HN comment degeneracy: they could then claim to be victim of a hash collision and you won't be able to prove it while maintaining privacy.

Also a hash doesn't provide privacy in itself. It just make enumerating people in the database more difficult.

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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by jacobr1 on Saturday February 05, 2022 @10:52AM (#30222242)
They already do have their own lists. The request has more to do with getting legal cover.
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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by Handytinge on Sunday February 06, 2022 @09:47PM (#30239660)
What legal cover do they require? They're private companies, surely they can refuse service?
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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by spurgu on Sunday February 06, 2022 @10:32AM (#30233363)
Here's my take on it:

1. People getting rowdy on planes recently is probably due to masking requirements

2. Airplanes have very efficient ventilation

3. Omicron is harmless to most people

4. Most people are vaccinated and protected against serious disease (Delta being the threat here, which has almost disappeared completely)

Simply remove the mask mandates and the problem will go away by itself (or at least return to normal).

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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by tremon on Sunday February 06, 2022 @01:15PM (#30235226)
People getting rowdy on planes is probably due to the onerous pre-flight experience. I haven't heard about people getting rowdy on trains, but they have the same masking requirements.
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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by packetlost on Monday February 07, 2022 @09:51AM (#30245595)
I mean, pre-covid sure. But there's been a number of cases of customers getting kicked for refusing to comply with the mandate. I would be surprised to hear most of the recent cases of people getting kicked off were not because of masks.
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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by spurgu on Sunday February 06, 2022 @01:20PM (#30235283)
Yeah that's a good point.
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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday February 05, 2022 @09:55AM (#30221639)
> what doesn't each airline have its own list?

They do.

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Re:Delta CEO wants U.S. to put unruly passengers on 'no-fly'... by diedyesterday on Sunday February 06, 2022 @02:16AM (#30230216)
They want to push the PR cost of that to the government and make it uncontroversial for themselves.
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