The thing that is so hard for me to wrap my head around is that it is the LEFT who is doing it this time. I never would have imagined my "team" being the one to do it. In fact, I have to wonder what it is that I "am" anymore.

The "left" is no more immune to controlling thought than the right -- just look at China or the USSR

The danger is authoritarianism and centralisation, and in terms of centralisation big tech companies like Spotify have in spades. You could also feasibly argue they're authoritarian as no-one outside the company can influence policy outside of free market forces, but centralisation can make these companies somewhat immune to said forces, for instance Spotify being the exclusive distributor of Joe Rogan podcasts means those interested in his content have no choice but to continue using Spotify, even though some of his podcasts have been removed.

I had this crisis several years ago with the whole "Jordan Peterson controversy". I found myself listening to a man who told me how to get out of my depression when everyone around me thought he was an evil bad man, but they were all miserable people who definitely didn't help. So I stopped hanging out with them. My life got objectively better, too. I wouldn't consider myself a Jordan Peterson fanatic, but that was when I really realized I wasn't whatever the "left" wanted me to be.

> In fact, I have to wonder what it is that I "am" anymore.

I have gone through a similar transition since the summer of 2020.

Why do you think Spotify removed the podcasts?

I grew up same as you, and you took the words out of my mouth.

People who grew up secular are completely unaware of how Southern Baptist in style all of this canceling and moralizing is. Like the church ladies, they turn moralizing into a competitive sport, and everyone loses.

God isn’t dead, he’s got blue hair and screams a lot now.

The classic every-other-generation flip-flop.

Spot on, though I think it's not just an issue of 'dangerous ideas', it's more an issue of can the layperson think at all for themself. I.e. less 'free speech' and more dark-ageish 'only these are allowed to speak' problem.

This comment seems grossly overgeneralized and patently offensive about a huge group of people.

What does Joe Rogan have to do at all with evangelical Christians?

Very fair point, it wasn't my intent to disparage broadly.

>heard from the more cellophane elements of that crew

I should have made this distinction more clear. There are evangelical Christians whom I love dearly and hold in the highest regard. I don't want to call anyone a 'fake' Christian but there are definitely those that just seem to be focused purely on what others should and should not be doing. That's the kind I'm talking about here.

Thank you for the excellent clarification!

Welcome to HN, where some people find a way to fit their agenda into every discussion now, it seems.

It was just an observation, this feels like a new religion.

It is a new religion. The religion of Newchurch: https://www.devever.net/~hl/newchurch

I think you misread. The feeling described is about peoples reaction to Joe Rogan (like his tacit support for anti-vaccine ideology) and how evangelicals have the same reaction to things they don't like (like rights for women).

As far as I can tell evangelicals and many other Christian denominations are some of the biggest cancellers to ever exist. The left cancels, too, of course. And only now that the left's actions are becoming broadly effective folks are finally talking about how cancellations affect society.

OP(?) here, gunapologist99 makes a good point in that I painted with too broad a brush stroke.

Most of the evangelicals I know are actually amazing people and are not like this at all. They are generous, kind, forgiving...but they are also humble and quiet and don't make a bunch of noise or stir up trouble. Unless you live with them, nobody really hears about this kind of Christian.

Its just that there is a certain vein of folk that really focus on what everyone else should and should not be doing. Kenneth Copeland style. That's who I was referencing, but did a sloppy job of distinguishing them.

Anyway.

Joe Rogan is the new Howard Stern.

Yeah, it feels like theres a new kind of conservativism being born in the last couple years.

It's not conservative. It's puritanical, however. Political tribalism has filled the void left by the diminishment of religious tribalism.

Yes, because religious activities were at or near the center of everyday life for many. It was the topic of discussion during meals. It defined people and their personalities. Now politics has taken that place, and I'm not sure we're better that way.

At least with religion we mostly know what is supposed to be right and wrong. It's exhausting when it changes every month and something innocent I said last month is taken as an awful slight next month

Conservative like the people that the old hippies used to call squares. The people who wanted you to fall in line and get a hair cut, get a job, and stop listening to that evil music.

Low-effort dunks are not a good look.

That same 'horse deworming paste' is showing promise in fighting cancer as well:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/

https://mdanderson.elsevierpure.com/en/publications/ivermect...

https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/10.15252/emmm.201404084

https://jeccr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13046-019-...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41523-021-00229-5

https://journals.lww.com/oncology-times/fulltext/2021/05050/...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S104366182...

How does a deworming paste kill an entire organism without harming the host? Do you have a grasp of the mechanism of action? Why is it unlikely that it would have anti-viral effects? My intuition is you have absolutely no idea.

Do some searching and dig in. If you spent a few days reading articles about how this works you might see a possibility of it having some benefit in this case. It's ok to read, you're not going to hurt anyone because nobody is going to ask you (or me) for your opinion on the matter, but you would at least have a basis for why you think the way you do.

Good start! Keep reading!

Ivermectin may or may not help people with covid, i have no idea. My point is that dismissing it outright based on tabloid characterizations is not helpful. It’s propaganda.

I've heard "problematic" described as the woke religion's equivalent to "heresy".

New? D&D will turn your child into a Satanist. 40 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic