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Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by smm11 on Friday February 04, 2022 @04:01PM (#30213137)
First, I freeking love cooking with our gas stove. It's got zero electronics, and is simply a half-dozen gas valves that output like a blast furnace. I've no doubt it's a danger to me and everyone else on earth, but what isn't?

And I don't like this push to offload all the industrial methane output blame to me, and others like me. My nearest landfill likely outputs more methane daily, than I will in a lifetime. Blame all of us, though.

Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by wikibob on Friday February 04, 2022 @04:04PM (#30213178)
Modern induction provides a superior cooking experience to gas.

The metal of the cookware is heated directly via the energy field.

Yes there are many risks in modern life, some are longer term and less directly linked. Gas stoves are directly linked to health outcomes and switching away can result in immediate personal benefit.

Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by endisneigh on Friday February 04, 2022 @04:05PM (#30213194)
Switching requires money. I hate when people say these things as if renovating is free.

Most forms of cooking other then perhaps boiling in general release needless emissions.

Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by Gigachad on Friday February 04, 2022 @05:01PM (#30213945)
The first step is governments banning gas for new builds like NYC has. And then offering interest free loans or other incentives to get rid of existing connections.
Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by stjohnswarts on Friday February 04, 2022 @05:40PM (#30214433)
I wouldn't count on NYC government choices being popular all over the USA...
Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by asow92 on Friday February 04, 2022 @06:47PM (#30215178)
As someone who has lived in middle America and NYC, so much yes. Many in both are just as sure that their way is the superior one.
Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by smm11 on Friday February 04, 2022 @04:13PM (#30213319)
Sorry, but induction does not replace an open fire for much of the cooking that I do. I'm no luddite, we have an electric car, and ride bicycles most of the time instead.

This is all a big PR ploy to deflect blame from industry. Concrete, anyone?

Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by stjohnswarts on Friday February 04, 2022 @05:39PM (#30214427)
no it doesn't. See it's just opinion, man. It's hard to deny they're better for the environment but for a lot of us we just enjoy gas and the experience of cooking with it.
Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by bayindirh on Friday February 04, 2022 @04:05PM (#30213195)
Modern gas stoves, esp. in the EU has electronics for safety and relighting if it goes out. So they're not just a bunch of valves like the stoves of the yesteryear.

We use electric stoves for ~20 years and nothing has broken on them except a regular bulb back-light. Current stoves esp. BSH made are not solid state electronics. They are relay powered industrial automations so they don't break twice a week.

OTOH, most probably the landfill nearest to you is using methane trapping technologies to use that methane to generate electricity. Ours is doing it, and it's awesome.

Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by Gigachad on Friday February 04, 2022 @05:01PM (#30213935)
The landfill is full of crap that you threw in it though so that would still be on you. It also probably serves more people than you have days in your lifespan.
Re:New research: natural gas appliances emit much more metha... by smm11 on Monday February 07, 2022 @12:30PM (#30248045)
Every single gas stove on earth puts gas into the atmosphere, over 20 years, equal to 500,000 cars annually.

Let's blame gas stoves.