Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe than Tesla claims

Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by HWR_14 on Thursday February 03, 2022 @08:53AM (#30192362)

The value is as an additional line of QC. If you think about it as "hiding statistics" then there is no value. If you think of it as the last step in the production process, then clearly the cars making it to the customers are of a higher average level if the bad ones get rejected.

It also lets Tesla play with the numbers of shipped cars, because cars returned by dealers don't count as shipped.

But look at the recent HN story about the Tesla without a brake pad.

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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by ZeroGravitas on Thursday February 03, 2022 @08:56AM (#30192401)

I think you may be confused as to the context. Or else I am, let me check.

Ok, so this is a check done after the car has been used for 3 years.

So, it's not QC before the car leaves the factory, it's fixing things before the government checks them and puts them into the public stats for test "failures".

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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by HWR_14 on Thursday February 03, 2022 @09:11AM (#30192585)

I may have misunderstood. These statistics are generated by the government checking vehicles after they've been in service for 3 years by an end consumer? And only after the dealer gives it an immediately preceding check? If so, that invalidates my point.

If it's just the results of regular dealer maintenance, it's fuzzier.

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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by josefx on Thursday February 03, 2022 @10:35AM (#30193725)

> And only after the dealer gives it an immediately preceding check?

Some dealers are qualified to perform the checks and also offer to perform a pre check for free. However cars checked by a dealer would not end up on a statistic of cars checked by TüV.

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