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Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by janandonly on Thursday February 03, 2022 @07:25AM (#30191562)
I don't use the official Apple Podcasts app anymore at all.

My favorites now are Breez [1] for all Value4Value[2] podcasts, and Overcast[3] for all podcast that haven't upgraded yet.

[1] https://breez.technology/technology.html

[2] https://podcastindex.org/podcast/value4value

[3] https://overcast.fm/

Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by bin_bash on Thursday February 03, 2022 @07:56AM (#30191828)
I've never been that interested in Bitcoin (save for buying drugs a couple of times) but seeing products named things like "Value4Value" make me actively want to run away from anything that even smells of blockchain.
Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by janandonly on Thursday February 03, 2022 @08:05AM (#30191901)
I suspect that more and more products will rely on the bitcoin network without using the word "bitcoin" in their marketing.

Would you be interested in the Fountain.fm [1] podcast app? Are you still interested if someone told you it runs on a 2nd layer on top of bitcoin?

[1] https://www.fountain.fm/

Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by bin_bash on Thursday February 03, 2022 @08:13AM (#30191965)
I use a credit card with patreon or memberful when I want to support creators. What would bitcoin offer me exactly? It seems it would pay creators that I don't actively want to support rather than just the ones I do.
Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by janandonly on Thursday February 03, 2022 @08:27AM (#30192094)
I don't think I understand you here, because your argument is in favor of what I just said above?

Why would you pay a credit card fee and a Patreon fee if all you want to do is directly sponsor a Podcaster?

You see, lightning transactions are more or less free (as in, sub $ cent transactions) [1].

And using the Fountain.FM or Breez podcasting app's allowes not just you to stream money to the podcaster herself, but also a % of that "donation" to be split or even wholly donated to yet another person. [2]

[1] Scroll down to Median Fee: https://1ml.com/statistics

[2] For example, when you listen to this episode it will not stream money to the podcaster, but to the Human Rights Foundation: https://player.fm/series/closing-the-loop-2955490/ep-14-rodo...

Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by bin_bash on Thursday February 03, 2022 @10:17AM (#30193486)
if I cared about transaction fees (I don't frankly—I make most of that money back in points anyways), I'd just give them money with my debit card
Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by smoldesu on Thursday February 03, 2022 @11:03AM (#30194108)
> Are you still interested if someone told you it runs on a 2nd layer on top of bitcoin?

No, I think that actually dilutes the value of a "decentralized" network.

Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by LoveMortuus on Thursday February 03, 2022 @07:29AM (#30191600)
What is it that these apps offer that the default Google podcast doesn't? Does it give better discovery options? I'm asking because, I use Google podcast, but I use it to listen to podcasts that I already know exist, using the app itself to find interesting new podcasts hasn't been very successful for me.
Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by janandonly on Thursday February 03, 2022 @08:11AM (#30191949)
Yes and yes.

> What is it that these apps offer that the default Google podcast doesn't?

For one, donating directly to the podcaster herself instead of to Spotify/Google/Anchor/Apple or whoever else runs the app.

> Does it give better discovery options?

Sort of, yes. Let me explain: All podcasting apps rely on the Apple podcast index. [1] One of the very early podcasters, Adam Curry, was worried about this index being run by Apple, who may or may not one day decide to censor the index or ask money for it. So he set up his own [2].

[1] http://adam.curry.com/html/PODFATHER-g6c2RMsVnxgTdZ2DgHlVfMv...

[2] https://podcastindex.org/

Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by 7sidedmarble on Thursday February 03, 2022 @09:05AM (#30192507)
I'm curious then, how does this work with platform exclusives? Are they entered into these databases?
Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by lelandfe on Thursday February 03, 2022 @07:42AM (#30191703)
Sorry, what does Bitcoin have to do with podcasting?
Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by janandonly on Thursday February 03, 2022 @08:03AM (#30191877)
Bitcoin, or better, the lightning network on top of bitcoin, simply allows micropayments at a large scale for (almost) free. Breez is a podcast app that also happens to be a bitcoin lightning wallet, but there are others (like Fountain.FM [2]).

The Value 4 Value initiative [1] incentives podcasters by paying an x amount for every second that you listed to a podcast. You can also donate an arbitrary extra amount if you wish.

[1] https://podcastindex.org/podcast/value4value

[2] https://www.fountain.fm/

Re:Apple Podcasts suddenly became a five-star app by smoldesu on Thursday February 03, 2022 @08:15AM (#30191997)
Good god, take me back to the RSS days and let this postmodern capitalist meme be finished already...