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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by kaba0 on Thursday February 03, 2022 @02:38AM (#30189771)
Also, I think the biggest flaw in tesla’s statistics is that people will turn of autopilot when they see a dangerous situation ahead - it is pretty much as self-selecting “good” samples as it gets.
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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by dachryn on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:27AM (#30190056)
indeed, either they turn off autopilot to avoid the crash, or it crashed. The cases 'would have crashed if the human did not intervene' should also count if you want to claim it is super safe
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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by robbiepapiere on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:35AM (#30190098)
That seems irrelevant for the statistics, though? It doesn‘t give the Tesla driver an advantage.
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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by bildung on Thursday February 03, 2022 @04:23AM (#30190440)
It does? Those drivers remove a small portion of the autopilot miles driven, but a large portion of the challenging/dangerous miles. The result are stats with a low accident per mile ratio.
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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by dtgriscom on Thursday February 03, 2022 @06:16AM (#30191076)
It definitely skews the statistics. Compare two driver's records, but use all the driving of the first, and only the driving on safe/clear/clean/visible sections of highway for the second. Voila: the second will very probably be the "better" driver.
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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by contravariant on Thursday February 03, 2022 @05:07AM (#30190690)
Sure, but the important question is the capability of the Autopilot, not the Tesla driver.
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