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Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by chrissnell on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:05AM (#30188925)
How are these transactions conducted? If I wanted to buy some IPv4 and an ASN, where would I go and how much would, say, a /28 cost me?
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by jethro_tell on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:30AM (#30189042)
For a /28 you'd have to go to someone that has at least a /24. Probably Colo a bare metal box. If you want to buy a /24 you could go to arin, assuming you're in north America but even that is quite unlikely with the amount of up space left. You'd probably have to buy third party from a broker. Last I checked that was in the 4$ per IP but I haven't been following for a few years.

At this point, most of the free up space is picked up by the big boys and you gotta do business with them.

Airn has a few senarios where you can pick up ipv4 addresses but it's pretty though at this point and you usually would need to be an established business with an existing ipv4 and a dual stack ipv6 setup. The ipv4 they are giving out is basically preferred to providers that are dual stacking and need additional ipv4 space to roll out ipv6.

Honestly, if you were to start today, there's basically no chance unless you gett off your wallet and pay a 3rd party at auction. And those ups are usually going to be trash. You'll spend a year getting them off blacklists and able to function.

So theoretically, you could get some but in practice, you're best bet is to rent them from Someone that already has them and put a router or server in their Colo.

Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by Tuna-Fish on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:53AM (#30189170)
The prices have risen a lot since you last checked. It's getting close to $40 per IP these days.
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by nine_k on Thursday February 03, 2022 @01:55AM (#30189524)
I wonder how do major cloud providers reflect this appreciation of their assets on their books,:)
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by gbil on Thursday February 03, 2022 @07:18AM (#30191503)
That is a very good question and not only for cloud providers but also for businesses with /8 ranges and even smaller ones which currently are valued at $1+ million I'm not aware if there is any business that really registers them as assets or any tax authority requiring this but I'd also be very interested to hear more on this
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by jethro_tell on Thursday February 03, 2022 @01:25AM (#30189347)
Lol, sounds about right. We've know that hockey stick graph is coming. Probably should have checked before I shot my mouth off.
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by walrus01 on Thursday February 03, 2022 @02:44AM (#30189800)
it's way above $40 now, more like 50-55 and pushing towards 60
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by ShrigmaMale on Thursday February 03, 2022 @09:26AM (#30192774)
This. Bad for newer companies since big guys already have it and everybody still needs v4.
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by mcescalante on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:24AM (#30189015)
I can't speak to how all transactions are conducted, but there are auctions on one marketplace, IPv4 Global auctions, with cost per IP in the $50-60 range https://auctions.ipv4.global/. I also really enjoyed Flyio's blog post about acquiring addresses https://fly.io/blog/32-bit-real-estate/
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by rossmohax on Thursday February 03, 2022 @04:00AM (#30190298)
Too bad there is no IPV4 ETF, would be a good investment even now.
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by walrus01 on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:26AM (#30189025)
You can't buy smaller than a single /24 through the officially approved arin, ripe and apnic transfer processes, since that is the minimum size of individual netblock you can announce into global routing tables.

An asn is not something you buy from a third party unless acquiring a whole corporation that already has one, since there is no real shortage of them, you'd get your asn from your regional registry.

Expect about $50 to 55 per IP now.

Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by 3825 on Thursday February 03, 2022 @05:50AM (#30190911)
> Expect about $50 to 55 per IP now.

So 254 * 50 or about USD 12k to 13k? That’s the only cost and you get to own 254 IP addresses? Are there ongoing costs?

Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by throw0101a on Thursday February 03, 2022 @07:57AM (#30191831)
Re:Starlink adds another 100Gbps connection to the SeattleIX by dodgerdan on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:43AM (#30190153)
I believe the first and most crucial step was Brad asking his wife if she was ok with it.