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Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by jondwillis on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @11:11AM (#30179496)
As one of the “rich Tesla fanboys” you describe, no, probably it should not be legal.

That being said, it has made me re-realize that humans are really terrible drivers as well, myself included, just less terrible on average, currently.

Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by lgvln on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @03:14PM (#30183351)
I’m curious how does a bad (terrible) “full self driving” car make you realise humans are “really terrible drivers”. I can see how some drivers can miscalculate and end up making a risky manoeuvre. It happens, intentionally or not, and most people can and are willing to react in a way that avoids an collision. A Tesla on the other hand is beyond bad or terrible. It is basically incompetent - driving into on-coming traffic, opposing lanes, deviating wildly from the lane, ignoring speed limits etc).
Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by CultMember009 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @01:26PM (#30181690)
I respect your honesty and encourage you to try some remedial driving lessons to avoid being a “really terrible driver.” It can save your life and others also.
Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by jondwillis on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @02:21PM (#30182603)
I'm a great driver on a relative basis. The average is just that terrible.
Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by scotty79 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @04:31PM (#30184342)
It's really hard to estimate that. Vast majority of drivers believe they are better than average driver.
Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by vba616 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @07:49PM (#30186780)
Probably this is true, but I bet accurate self-evaluation based on facts is positively correlated with driving skill.
Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by millzlane on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @02:05PM (#30182328)
All the remedial driving lessons in the world can't prevent you from making a mistake and killing someone.
Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by jjav on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @04:52PM (#30184571)
If you mean prevent 100%, of course not since nothing is absolute.

But driving skill training can most certainly greatly increase your skills and awareness and thus immensely reduce your risk of mistakes.

Anyone who drives should take as many car control and accident avoidance clinics as they can and refresh up every few years (if not more). These should really be required by law but since they're not, you can increase your odds of living by being proactive about it.

It's weird that this is somehow controversial for car driving. For e.g. airplane pilots there is a long and strict training and skill maintenance routine, because obviously this makes for safer pilots. You don't just get to read a booklet and go flying.

Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by vba616 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @07:53PM (#30186825)
Pilots spend a lot of time on simulators, I believe.

Seems like there would be economies of scale if the federal government created some really realistic simulators programmed with all the common accident situations and then everybody could be required to pass a test every four years or something.

I imagine it would be so much more enjoyable and hopefully more effective than the defensive driving classes that exist now.

Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by travisporter on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @03:09PM (#30183275)
Yeah they can. If you practice defensive driving you are less likely to kill someone