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Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding by greiskul on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @09:55PM (#30173077)
The thing I have noticed is when the anecdotes and the data disagree, the anecdotes are usually right. There's something wrong with the way you are measuring it. - Jeff Bezos

You can think many things of Bezos, but he does know how to make a business make money. Data is important, but things that are hard to measure that you only learn as anectodes is also important.

Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding by Groxx on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @10:08PM (#30173184)
Amazon's sprinting decline into absurdly gamed reviews and scam copycat products really doesn't support that quote.
Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding by bb88 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @01:13AM (#30174399)
If they don't measure it, does it exist?

I'm not disagreeing here, but it could be that the fraud is a drop in the bucket of Amazon revenue. And just trying to get metrics on it, may cost more than what Amazon benefits from it.

I tonight bought a 3d printer hotend from the source company, because I couldn't be sure the product I order from Amazon would be genuine.

It's pretty bad when the products being sold on Amazon are labeled "Genuine assembled E3D V6 Hotend", when if Amazon gave a shit, it would only need to say "Assembled E3D V6 hotend."

Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding by Andys on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @10:13PM (#30173217)
Heh, I wonder if he would apply that to science as well?
Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding by greiskul on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @01:06AM (#30174351)
Science advances in strange ways sometimes. Plate tectonics started basically with the anecdote of "south america really looks a lot like it fits into east Africa", but wasn't believed at first due to no hard data.

Anedoctes are not data, but when you have some with no data, instead of ignoring it you should take it as a signal to go search if there is data to support it. Great scientists and mathematicians usually have good intuition of things to research, not because they have data, but their mental models of the subject tell them that there should be interesting data there.

Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding by davidhowlett on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @05:38AM (#30175911)
I believe you mean West Africa.