Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding
by mahkeiro on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @03:01AM
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Just look at Intel to see a company that was managed by the accounting people. Great numbers for a few years, large dividend, etc, but now they have to spend billions and billions to put the company back on track and give it a future.
Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding
by erosenbe0 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @04:45AM
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Disagree. Intel has had continuous dividends for at least 30 years.
Few giant American companies have been as consistently successful as Intel. I can think of only Microsoft, one or two energy conglomerates like ExxonMobil, a telecom or two like Verizon, and maybe a bank like Goldman Sachs.
Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding
by projektfu on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @08:05AM
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Abbott Labs, CR Bard, Deere & Co.
Something about staying in your lane while increasing opportunities in that lane seems to be a good long-term formula.
Re:The McNamara fallacy: Measurement is not understanding
by erosenbe0 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @09:58AM
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Yep, Bard is part of BD, which is a large beast. Abbott/Abbvie always has something going for them. UnitedHealth has done well for years and years as it has grown. There might also be a stable industrial I am forgetting like a chemical company or 3M.
But overall, giant companies with 30 year runs of knockout growth and/or dividends like Intel are Cinderella stories. Google will be the next one to qualify in a few years I suppose.
Which is why companies can "grow" in accounting terms while actually being hollowed out as going concerns with a future.
Likewise with the planetary economy, which appears to be growing financially while in ecological terms it's almost literally eating its own seed corn.
A better approach needs a revolution in accounting. Current accounting practices are built on so many false assumptions they cannot possibly produce lasting long term opportunity, except for a tiny minority of exceptionally and unhealthily privileged people.