Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by mikece on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @11:16AM
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A public company will have a board of directors who set the direction of the company; as such what is to stop the board from directing that the license be changed?
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Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by ComradePhil on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @11:36AM
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I am sure they'll change their license, like some others have done:
https://www.confluent.io/blog/license-changes-confluent-plat... https://blog.timescale.com/blog/building-open-source-busines...
I don't think there is any place for GPL in databases and similar software, specially if it is to be built and run by for-profit companies.
Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by mikece on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @11:46AM
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I used to be opposed to GPL at moral level have have since changed my mind on this. It makes sense for anything that is essentially infrastructure -- operating systems, web servers, software firewalls -- to be GPL: improvements at this level are rarely something which gives a specific company a competitive advantage. In the cases where it would, however, I like the idea of dual-licensing so that a GPL project (for example: Linux) could be combined with proprietary code without needing to publish the changes. Right now anyone thinking along those lines (Sony, Netflix, Juniper, etc) chooses FreeBSD. In the case of the companies who have chosen FreeBSD for proprietary use they have, in many cases, ended up contributing work back to the parent project if for no other reason than self-interest in making updates to the base OS easier as their custom code remains slim. If Linux had been offering this dual-license option I think the examples above would have chosen Linux and there would have been contributions back to the parent project that aren't there today.
Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by webmobdev on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @12:20PM
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Yeah, but everything should be AGPL now instead of GPL. The software-as-service fiasco that changes the nature of "distribution" to bypass the open source requirements of licenses like GPL highlighted a loophole that corporates haven't hesitated in exploiting. AGPL has temporarily addressed this. However AGPL needs to go one more step and allow changing the license to plug any future loopholes. Right now, many GPL software cannot be automatically upgraded to AGPL license because we have to get permission from all the contributors to change the license. AGPL needs a clause that allows easy upgradation of the license retrospectively to ensure that the core concept can be defended in future too.
Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by jabl on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @02:20AM
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> If Linux had been offering this dual-license option
... then, most likely, Linux would never have taken off as contributors would have balked at the copyright assignment bureocracy, as well as not wanting to contribute to Linus's get-rich-quick scheme (why should Linus get special rights to profit of the work of the community?).
Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by chrisseaton on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @12:47PM
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Owners of code can always change their licence. Being a public company with a board of directors doesn't change anything.
Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by SloopJon on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @01:41PM
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I always thought of MariaDB as a fork of GPLed MySQL code that is now owned by Oracle. However, I see that MariaDB uses a contributor agreement, and reserves some features for a proprietary(?) enterprise edition.
Do I misunderstand the copyright status of MySQL/MariaDB, or has MariaDB been clever about how it adds features to the GPL core, such that they're not legally derivative works?
Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by ergonaught on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @01:40PM
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They cannot change the license for the GPL code for which they do not own copyright, which is everything forked from MySQL proper.
Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by eklitzke on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @01:14PM
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All C corporations have a board of directors, not just publicly listed companies. If the BoD wanted to push to change the license they could have done that years ago.
Re:MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation
by pipeweed on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @04:03AM
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MariaDB Server is guaranteed to remain open source. It will also always be available to the community. The MariaDB Foundation exists to support continuity and open collaboration in the MariaDB ecosystem, regardless of the actions of any company. https://mariadb.org/about/