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Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by technion on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @06:32AM (#30161207)
Analytics and fonts shouldn't be too hard. What about Captcha?
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by closewith on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @08:19AM (#30161980)
Google Analytics is very hard to replace, because the real value to businesses is in the integrations with Google Ads and Search Console. There's no viable alternative to Google's advertising networks at the minute.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by thedevelopnik on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @09:14AM (#30162631)
This. We use a non-Google analytics product that we could even move to self-hosting if needed. But the marketing director basically was like “This is better than GA, and I will use it for almost everything, but we have to have GA also because it shows as conversions.”
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by yorwba on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @09:59AM (#30163291)
Which non-Google analytics product are you using?
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by piaste on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @06:56AM (#30161388)
FriendlyCaptcha will probably get a ton of new business. It's what some EU institutions themselves use.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by schleck8 on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @07:53AM (#30161785)
I sure hope so
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by litgab on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @06:45AM (#30161299)
The directory linked in the article actually contains a captcha service called FriendlyCaptcha: https://www.developedin.eu/item-detail?recordId=recG9DsaUnGd...
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by hijodelsol on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @09:03AM (#30162500)
From a first look it seems like the subscription requires to use that service in a EU-only fashion costs at least 200$. While this seems like a good option for large and medium size companies, I fear that this pricing leaves out all small companies that may not require 50k solved captchas a month but may require EU-based hosting nonetheless.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by Terry_Roll on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @07:22AM (#30161559)
And the more this happens, the worse the search results will get because measuring popularity of a link and time spent on a website needs to be measured for ranking purposes, next time someone used the same search term.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by bsagdiyev on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @07:24AM (#30161572)
Google search seemed to work fine before that stuff was tracked.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by qwytw on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @07:29AM (#30161595)
That's because way less people were trying to game it.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by floatingatoll on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @10:55AM (#30164163)
And because websites used to link to other websites for non-profitable reasons (blogs, directories, and webrings).
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by ohgodplsno on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @07:28AM (#30161590)
*according to Google.

I spend 5 minutes on american recipe websites to scroll through the SEO bullshit before finding the actual recipe, but that doesn't mean it's useful.

So, no, it's just Google telling you to let them collect analytics on every aspect of your life for "search improvement purposes".

Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by bryanrasmussen on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @07:46AM (#30161729)
also the worse the search results will get if someone put a bunch of ads in before the search results for people to click on instead of the search results.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by iamacyborg on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @06:44AM (#30161291)
Or things like Stripe’s anti fraud js script.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by floatingatoll on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @10:47AM (#30164050)
And GCP.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by jpoesen on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @07:12AM (#30161502)
https://www.hcaptcha.com/ is a drop-in replacement for recaptcha.

It's not EU based, but at least it's not Google, and the service is privacy oriented...

Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by gmueckl on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @10:01AM (#30163333)
It's run by Intuition Machines, Inc. which seems to be incorporated in California. That fact alone disqualifies it.
Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by eatbots on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @10:52AM (#30164111)
Actually, no. hCaptcha has always been very privacy-focused, so in this case there are technical safeguards available: enterprise customers can pre-blind all data on their end, meaning hCaptcha gets no PII at all.

(disclosure: work there)

Re:Austrian DPA Ruling Against Google Paves the Way to EU-Ba... by floatingatoll on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @10:56AM (#30164187)
If y’all write a blog post about how your preblinding option makes you GDPR-compliant for silent embedding even though you’re a US entity, that would be front page material right now.