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Re:Please make a dumb car by loudtieblahblah on Monday January 31, 2022 @04:00PM (#30154268)
Trains, bikes, buses, and street cars only solve urban problems.

And I know urban environments are overall better for the environment, but they're not better for people's psyche. They're crime ridden. Theyre smog ridden. Theyre awful environments to live in during a pandemic.

People were moving into cities until a pandemic struck and riots became commonplace. Then they started to leave with the speed in which they arrived.

Re:Please make a dumb car by throwaway946513 on Monday January 31, 2022 @05:22PM (#30155504)
I don't know about which city or urban environment, but my downtown area (largest city in our state), isn't crime ridden, has no smog, sure there's likely more pollution, but with the layout of our highways and the location of traffic, that's all further from houses and offices than led to believe.

The 'riots' you're thinking of took place in a rather racially segregated and historically significant part of my city that isn't downtown... Urban environments have existed for centuries, even millennia. Ancient cities were dense and had many a people within their walls.

Re:Please make a dumb car by tinversenorm on Monday January 31, 2022 @04:31PM (#30154740)
I think they can also solve quite a few suburban problems. There are many examples of other countries whose suburbs are connected via public transit. And many trips can be done via bike instead of car.
Re:Please make a dumb car by ectopod on Monday January 31, 2022 @05:06PM (#30155255)
Yes, but American suburbs aren't like other countries' suburbs. British suburbs, for example, are much denser and usually very walkable.
Re:Please make a dumb car by throwaway946513 on Monday January 31, 2022 @05:23PM (#30155519)
There are a few American suburbs that are well-walkable and still support automobile transport. They're just not engineered to _only_ support automotive transport. We've had them, then destroyed them.
Re:Please make a dumb car by multiplegeorges on Monday January 31, 2022 @05:13PM (#30155374)
> They're crime ridden. Theyre smog ridden. ... riots became commonplace

Where do you live?