The "smart" stuff on my Sony TV is pretty damn good actually. It has all the major streaming services I use and the remote isn't half bad. It's actually taken over most of the functionality we used the Apple TV for.

Really? I bought a high end Sony Bravia with Android TV and the experience honestly sucks. It’s slow as hell, the sounds are awful, Google pushed fucking ads to the home and the UI is really not very nice looking. There are lots of apps though which is cool.

We probably have similar models. Honestly it is faster than some of the smart tv’s I have and the remote isn’t too shabby at all.

We got the TV mainly because the picture quality was much better than the others they had at Costco.

not everyone likes Roku interface, and not everyone wants to or can plug in something on the back of the tv

Then enjoy being tracked in increasingly unseemly ways.

The current morass of advertising chicanery continues to exist because people are willing to trade away their privacy for convenience.

If you know something sucks but continue to do it because it's convenient then it's beyond disingenuous to keep complaining about it.

"Doctor it hurts when I do this" and all that :p

you assume everyone, me included, is complaining, and that Roku doesn’t track either. That’s the same mentality that people had about Google in the early days. There’s a need for embedded solutions, better design, lower costs, etc.