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Re:My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmw... by Aeolun on Monday January 31, 2022 @10:16AM (#30148784)
> They're not better than top-line LG, etc.

Maybe, maybe not. But a lot of those companies haven’t existed for longer than my latest washer.

You buy those brands because you know exactly what you get. Basically guaranteed performance for the next 10 years, and very likely after.

I do wish they didn’t jump on the app bandwagon, but they really have no choice since the rabble wants it. I swear people will pick an appliance with an app simply so they don’t have to press the preheat button on their oven. And you can do it from the couch! Never mind that you don’t ever do that…

Re:My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmw... by EricE on Monday January 31, 2022 @11:20AM (#30149704)
"You buy those brands because you know exactly what you get."

No, you won't. Just because you had an appliance that lasted 20 years before doesn't mean you are going to get the same today (you aren't). Energy efficiency standards have affected all manufacturers. Complexity leads to unreliability over time - all manufacturers are affected. Some will still be better than the rest, but if you aren't prioritizing manufacturers who are repair friendly you are going to either be spending multiples of the original cost of your appliance over time, or just flat out replacing them more often.

Or just fix that 20 year old appliance you already have when it breaks (almost always the best answer vs. buying new - with just about anything!)

Re:My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmw... by thirdsun on Thursday February 03, 2022 @01:35AM (#30189408)
> I swear people will pick an appliance with an app simply so they don’t have to press the preheat button on their oven.

Absolutely. The other day a colleague described the fact that her washing mashine's app tells her when the program is finished as an essential, must-have feature. I understand that it's useful and nice to have but if you're wearing an Apple Watch anyway, as she does, just set a timer. It's what I do.