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Re:My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmw... by tyingq on Monday January 31, 2022 @09:05AM (#30147979)
Most of them are sort of silly, but it does have some options that make use of the "smartness".

The manual is here: https://www.mieleusa.com/pmedia/ZGA/TX2070/10546880-000-01_1...

Most of the smart stuff is in "settings" starting on page 64. Stuff like configuring it to run only during a low electric rate period (nights). Notifying you when filters need changing. Keeping track of detergent reservoir levels.

Re:My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmw... by bmj on Monday January 31, 2022 @09:22AM (#30148156)
My (non-internet connected) washing machine does this very thing. Why does an appliance need to be connected to a network to provide this functionality? So I can track it on my phone? As another comment pointed out, until these appliances can load themselves, I still need to be physically present at some point in time. An LED indicator can tell me to clean the filter or fill the cleaning reservoir, and I don't have to enter my WiFi information or download security updates.
Re:My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmw... by chasd00 on Monday January 31, 2022 @10:30AM (#30149013)
if phone integration was the reason for it all couldn't it be done cheaper and easier over bluetooth? i think the only reason for inet connected dishwasher is stats gathering to help craft a more effective sales campaign for more dishwashers.
Re:My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmw... by Cthulhu_ on Monday January 31, 2022 @09:34AM (#30148291)
> configuring it to run only during a low electric rate period (nights)

My dishwasher has a start delay function, basically the same... although if it's 'smart' I guess you could align it with things like a smart grid, highly variable rates, solar panels and battery. But that's something for the 1%.

Filters is a double-edged sword, because since it's a consumable, it's in the manufacturer's interest to give false positives for the need to replace filters, like printer ink.

Detergent reservoir levels, I don't know if that's a thing, mine has a reservoir for salt, but I have to put a detergent tablet in myself for every cycle. Would be convenient if it was built in, I guess.

Re:My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmw... by can16358p on Monday January 31, 2022 @09:16AM (#30148087)
Honestly those are all welcome features for sure. The only problem is they gather too much data and call home. Not to mention this particular model/brand does it, but most do.
Re:My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmw... by foepys on Monday January 31, 2022 @11:31AM (#30149862)
That's all the talking points those manufacturers give you but my dishwasher can do all of this with 2 buttons, a few LEDs, and a wheel for program selection. It even opens by itself so I don't need to be present when it's finished.