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Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by colejohnson66 on Monday January 31, 2022 @12:03AM (#30144694)
How? You’re not forced to, are you?[a] If you can research the changes and decide to hold off, it’s still opt-in.

[a]: Genuinely asking. I don’t own a Tesla

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by watt on Monday January 31, 2022 @03:11AM (#30145696)
It nags you incredibly. Everytime you sit in the car, the pop-up is there, nagging to install now, or to schedule install overnight. The way out of the pop-up is a small [x] to close it. And the dialog is right back the next time, waiting until you (or somebody) will accidentally press the other button.

I have it sitting on that screen, nagging me, and, honestly, it's depressing.

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by actinium226 on Monday January 31, 2022 @01:01AM (#30145088)
I do own a Tesla.

You're not forced to. The car will alert you when there's new software available and even download it when you're connected to wifi (which I never am because I live in an apt and park far from my actual apt), but you still need to decide when to schedule the install, because it can take 30-90 minutes to complete. The UX has not yet degraded to the point where Tesla decides 'eh, you don't need your car at 3am to go to the airport/hospital today.'

I do believe there are cases with critical bugs where Tesla can force the update.

I have the v11 update sitting on my car and I'm not installing it until I hear some of this stuff is fixed.

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by jedberg on Monday January 31, 2022 @12:30AM (#30144881)
Because a lot of times you want to actually use the new thing for a while to see if it works for you. But with no way to go back, it's a one way door, so you better have access to someone else's Tesla if you want to just try it.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by colejohnson66 on Monday January 31, 2022 @12:36AM (#30144927)
A one way door is still opt in. Is it scummy? Sure. But is it not opt in? No. We can argue points without hyperbole.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by Mordisquitos on Monday January 31, 2022 @05:39AM (#30146602)
When the only way to fully understand the result of going through the door is irreversibly going through the door and hoping for the best, it is not opt-in. You do not have an opt, you have a guess.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by simondotau on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @05:13AM (#30175753)
Perfectly put.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by tlavoie on Monday January 31, 2022 @02:59AM (#30145616)
See P.T. Barnum's, "This Way to the Egress" http://www.ptbarnum.org/egress.html
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by kwhitefoot on Monday January 31, 2022 @07:50AM (#30147355)
The problem is that it is all or nothing. You can't accept each new feature separately only all of them at once.