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Re:Reasons Kubernetes is so complex by lukev on Thursday January 27, 2022 @04:01PM (#30106624)
It really doesn't have to be either/or. It's possible to build quite nice abstractions in a declarative style, using real code.

This is actually the next generation of devops tools... CDK, Pulumi, etc.

Re:Reasons Kubernetes is so complex by grogenaut on Thursday January 27, 2022 @04:09PM (#30106721)
Been using CDK for years, since pre-alpha. I love it and my company is moving very heavily towards CDK, a thing I helped drive.

Some of our ops folks still prefer pure declarative. Like down to the explicit yaml and knowing exactly what AWS flags are ticked in what way. They're also much less comfortable with code.

It's not an argument it's a preference, it's how their brains think and their comfort zone. They would literally rather see 1.5 MB of zipped yaml then read through CDK libraries. They literally look at the generated CFN over the cdk.

Re:Reasons Kubernetes is so complex by carlmr on Friday January 28, 2022 @02:11AM (#30111570)
Pulumi looks really interesting.