Re:Poll: Is the leetcode grind necessary to land a high payi...
by d0gsg0w00f on Thursday January 27, 2022 @11:41AM
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IMO, I think we just need a way of easily firing people if they suck. It's very very difficult to termi ate without fear of retribution so the barriers to entry just keep getting taller.
If we could take a gamble on people and see if they sink or swim we could give a lot more opportunities.
Re:Poll: Is the leetcode grind necessary to land a high payi...
by notch656a on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:39PM
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It's not hard. At virtually every small company I worked for, not only is there no leetcode bullshit, firing wankers is as easy as giving them the termination slip. US has at will employment, 'you've been fired' is literally all you need to say, no explanation is required. You get hired after a conversation with a CEO, in my experience the hiring and firing process are both completed in under an hour.
Re:Poll: Is the leetcode grind necessary to land a high payi...
by d0gsg0w00f on Thursday January 27, 2022 @03:08PM
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I work at big companies. It's basically impossible. You have to transfer them to Milton's basement office and pray their inflated self-evaluations make them look for a new job.
Re:Poll: Is the leetcode grind necessary to land a high payi...
by Clubber on Thursday January 27, 2022 @11:52AM
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>I think we just need a way of easily firing people if they suck.
It is very easy to fire someone, especially in the first 90 days. Most states are "at will," meaning you can fire anyone at any time for any reason (outside protected classes) and the employee can leave at any time.
Re:Poll: Is the leetcode grind necessary to land a high payi...
by irvingprime on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:05PM
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Legally, it's easy. But getting the HR bureaucracy to go along with it is a long and unpleasant process. The last time I fired someone for doing no work at all and arguing over everything, it took about 8 months.
Unfortunately, my company is not unusual in this respect.
Re:Poll: Is the leetcode grind necessary to land a high payi...
by notch656a on Thursday January 27, 2022 @01:01PM
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There are a lot of companies without HR. Due to my background I haven't been hired for for a company with an HR (other than contract work) for probably a decade. If you want to hire and fire people easily, look for small companies, usually less than 20 people. Beyond that the CEOs tend to get tired of dealing with human administrative tasks, so it gets offloaded to HR. CEOs have a lot more risk tolerance so naturally when HR gets involved they focus on saving their own asses (which usually means taking low-risk rather than highest profit) rather than the good of the company.
Re:Poll: Is the leetcode grind necessary to land a high payi...
by Apocryphon on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:08PM
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If Leetcode becomes a credential onto its own, then at least job seekers aren’t asked to retake it at every company they interview for.
What we really need is for companies to stop trying so hard to find the absolute best most perfectest candidate that they screen out huge numbers who could have done the job but who missed some arbitrary keyword or coding test by a fraction.