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Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by lb1lf on Thursday January 27, 2022 @06:53AM (#30099379)
I work for a small-ish engineering firm on a small rock off the Norwegian coast.

The local labour market for engineers, technicians and developers is pretty much empty - as in, everybody with the skills required and the desire to live here already does.

Recruiting more often than not means sniping, or, if we're lucky - that someone has recently found a partner with desirable skills and coaxed them into moving up here.

Anyway, we've found that word of mouth is the most effective way; we simply let friends and associates, former colleagues and whatnot know that we're looking for X.

This is a hundred times more effective than LinkedIn for vetting candidates - people are quite unlikely to uncritically recommend someone when they will be reminded of their sell-in for years if it is a dud. (Much unlike LinkedIn endorsements...)

It turns out with friends&associates, friends&associates' friends&associates &c, you can cast a quite wide net - and also, the sell-in works better both ways; the candidates who do show up for interviews already have been told ours is a good place to be and are, more often than not, a good cultural fit.

(And, before someone asks - 'cultural fit' means 'Happy to work in a rather unstructured madhouse where the unofficial motto is 'We've never done that before, so we're probably quite good at it!') - we've assembled a motley crew from just about every nook and cranny of the planet, from Sri Lanka via Belarus to Argentina and Japan and lots inbetween. Oh, and the occasional Norwegian. All making world-class subsea equipment on a small islet way out in the boonies.

Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by celroid on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:32AM (#30100325)
Do you not hire remotely from the entirety of the European Union? Would you consider hiring a web developer with 4 years of experience, of which 2.5 is backend and 1.5 is full stack (HTML, CSS, JS within a CMS)?

I am asking because that reflects my situation and I am having a difficult time interviewing with most people expecting 3+ year exclusively in frontend.

I have been trying to make a switch from backend to frontend development. I went from Backend Dev -> Fullstack Dev and I am currently trying to do the next step to -> Frontend Dev.

Would be nice to know how to approach this.

Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by lb1lf on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:13AM (#30100787)
-We're at the other end of the stack, I'm afraid - Siemens S7 PLCs for the most part; whenever I code I basically write assembly code like it's 1979 - and it will never, ever be exposed to the web if I've got any say in the matter.
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by hutzlibu on Thursday January 27, 2022 @04:21PM (#30106888)
Ah well, you can use (allmost) all the web technologies completely offline and even interfacing with low level hardware.

So you could have javascript and html to power your devices, but you probably do not want to.

Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by lb1lf on Friday January 28, 2022 @02:47AM (#30111790)
That we can, but we do not want to. :)

We basically sold our soul to SIMATIC, Siemens' automation ecosystem long ago.

While it does have its quirks (to put it charitably), it is utterly predictable; as a first-order approximation, the ridiculously underpowered, ridiculously overpriced hardware never fails. (Unless you exert undue influence with a blunt object or high voltage)

I've (recently) patched code on Siemens PLCs being made in West Germany, that is, before October 1990. They still go about doing their thing. That kind of reliability makes me willing to suffer quite a lot of quirks.

Hence, STL, Siemens' near-assembly experience, it is. Snippet below:

A "InData".Joystick.WinchHoistCmd

  JCN   lowr
L "WinchDrumDb".SpeedExpCmd

L "WinchDrumSetupDb".Winch.MaxJoystickSpeedCmd

*R

T "WinchDrumDb".SpeedCmd

JU end2

At least it has mnemonics!

Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by hutzlibu on Friday January 28, 2022 @04:30AM (#30112511)
Yeah, I have heard of them(I think my dad used them back then even in east germany) and they are probably right for what you are doing and I am not suggesting, you switch to javascript.

But in other newly developed hardware, it can actually make sense nowdays, to use javascript. Mainly because you can get an abundance of developers for it, but then probably the hard part is to weed out those, who can barely script some website, to those who have indeed the right skillset.

If you are looking for STL people, you probably get STL people.

Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by peteradio on Thursday January 27, 2022 @11:11AM (#30102267)
No github then?
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by hutzlibu on Thursday January 27, 2022 @04:17PM (#30106828)
He is talking about the running code. But since it is probably not open source, no GitHub either.
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by johnmoberg on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:51AM (#30101229)
Hey, we're hiring frontend engineers remotely, feel free to reach out to my e-mail on my profile! :-)
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by e-pelaza on Thursday January 27, 2022 @10:31AM (#30101695)
Anything for apprentice? Would even take a customer support role. I'm a 30 dude from a third world country making a career switch and learning how to code.
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by rolleiflex on Thursday January 27, 2022 @01:01PM (#30103801)
Incidentally, to your tips on what you guys are doing to hire, I would add 'posting insightful commentary on Hacker News', ha — likely this post alone has gotten you a couple new interested folks.
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by samvher on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:04AM (#30100685)
That honestly sounds fantastic. I just accepted another job so I’m not looking now but I could easily imagine that this would be exactly the kind of thing (and place!) where I’d want to head a few years from now, and I think I would have a relevant profile (as an aerospace engineer with software skills and some exposure to embedded work and robotics). Would you mind dropping me an email (address in profile) with some more detail about the company?
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by e-pelaza on Thursday January 27, 2022 @07:19AM (#30099628)
Seeing your team from all over the world, are you guys still hiring? Taking apprentice?
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by lb1lf on Thursday January 27, 2022 @07:33AM (#30099743)
Oh, they all arrived here as flotsam some way or other - through love or war, basically.

(The catch being that we currently do not have any remote employees and it is nigh on impossible to hire someone from outside the Schengen area unless they've already found another way to legally stay here. That usually means either being granted asylum or marrying someone, I'm afraid)

Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by e-pelaza on Thursday January 27, 2022 @07:51AM (#30099911)
So, assuming I can get Schengen Visa from another country, is the process easier? I want to immigrate and Norway, Sweden, Finland are my top 3 destination. The thing is, getting visa there is harder. But if getting a Schengen visa would help (probably from France), I'm interested about the process to follow, can we have a chat?
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by flakron on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:00AM (#30100634)
At least for Sweden the process is pretty straightforward (at least at the moment). Once you have a job offer, the offering company usually hires some lawyer or company licensed (to fast track the visa within a week, a month at max).

Drop me some contact info, I can refer you. At least you can go through the process and check it out.

Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by e-pelaza on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:22AM (#30100876)
You can email me at ralinoro [at] outlook [dot] fr.
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by BurningFrog on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:02AM (#30100660)
They're talking about changing it, but AFAIK, you can still get a pretty automatic visa for Sweden if an employer wants to hire you.
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by e-pelaza on Thursday January 27, 2022 @10:36AM (#30101771)
How is the view towards self taught in Sweden?
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by BurningFrog on Thursday January 27, 2022 @07:29PM (#30109121)
Legally, you just need a job offer. There are no degree requirements.
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by pyb on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:20AM (#30100849)
"Happy to work in a rather unstructured madhouse where the unofficial motto is 'We've never done that before, so we're probably quite good at it!'"

OTOH, some of us are at their happiest in this kind of environment!

Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by x0x0 on Friday January 28, 2022 @01:28AM (#30111324)
Do you mind sharing the (rough) area? It sounds awesome :)
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by lb1lf on Friday January 28, 2022 @02:50AM (#30111813)
-Just a little north of the wall, at some 62N/6E.
Re:Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment? by x0x0 on Saturday January 29, 2022 @12:47AM (#30124085)
Thank you for sharing!

Google returned these photos, which look both desolate and gorgeous: https://confluence.org/confluence.php?lat=62&lon=7

Particularly #5 here https://confluence.org/photo.php?visitid=6821&pic=5

Though in photo #6 that looks mountain fed, and she looks tough.