Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by alisonatwork on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:47PM
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I agree with you that math is pretty much useless in most people's lives. However I disagree that teaching it to everyone is useless. The whole point of making kids learn a whole bunch of different things is that it gives them a chance to figure out if they are, in fact, interested. If you don't provide lots of different topics of learning to children in school, where are they going to find out that one of those topics might be just the thing that fascinates them? Most parents aren't going to expose their kids to every topic under the sun. I think it's great that schools expose kids to math, physics, chemistry, biology, languages, music, physical education, social studies, history, geography, cooking, sewing, painting, carpentry, religion, you name it. I hated doing at least half of those things when I was in school, but I still appreciate in retrospect that I did it, because now I know much better what I like and don't like.
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by truetraveller on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:52PM
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You don't need 12 years "figuring out" that you hate some field. That can and should be done in 2 weeks.
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by the_only_law on Thursday January 27, 2022 @11:00AM
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Eh, took me a couple years to figure it out with software.
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by waynesonfire on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @07:10PM
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You're an idiot. Math is everywhere. You can be ignorant of it, it won't kill you. But you're going to have a hard time in just about every endeavour I can think of.
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by alexashka on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @08:01PM
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Yup, humans have been struggling for millions of years. Then math finally came to the rescue.
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by waynesonfire on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @08:08PM
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That's exactly right.
"It is a great profession. There is the satisfaction of watching a figment of the imagination emerge through the aid of science to a plan on paper. Then it moves to realization in stone or metal or energy. Then it brings jobs and homes to men. Then it elevates the standards of living and adds to the comforts of life. That is the engineer's high privilege." - Herbert Hoover
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by truetraveller on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:50PM
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Exactly. Most moth is not useful at all, even for senior software engineers. I've researched this topic a lot. I'd say the useful math peaks at grade 9/10. You know: Algebra, Geometry, Trig, Graphs. Obviously, for a very small fraction of the population, higher math is useful.
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by after_care on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:14PM
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I find math to be incredibly useful in my day-to-day life, and am constantly quantifying things and making computations based on those quantifications. I specifically find double booking accounting, geometry, probability, and set theory to be useful in making daily decisions.
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by indigodaddy on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:43PM
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This isn’t a reason to not learn it or take it out of curriculums.
We use these skills a lot more than we may realize automatically and without really realizing we are utilize the skills.
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by truetraveller on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:59PM
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Most people generally do not use these math skills. Most use the very basics. Never once have I used or seen another developer use Calculus, for example. Most devs will have no idea what a "polynomial" is, either (grade 8). Let alone factoring a quadratic polynomial!
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by foxes on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @08:42PM
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The way the world and universe actually works seems to be described by maths you probably have no hope of understanding with that attitude.
Re:Why don't we use the math we learn in school?
by leetcrew on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:33PM
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highschool and to an extent middleschool math do spend a lot of time on stuff that doesn't matter to the average person. but it covers some things that matter a lot.
what will the sales tax be on this item at the store?
can I afford the items in my grocery cart?
if I buy a TV on my credit card and pay it off in three months, how much extra am I paying?
if I keep doing what I'm doing, when will I be able to retire?
For what? It isn't useful for teenagers who are trying to get laid and be cool, at all. It also isn't useful for what 99% of humans end up doing, unless by math you mean basic arithmetic, enough to add and subtract on your 'smart' phone.
Math isn't useful. People who are amazing at math and are interested in it - they can be useful, but mostly not.
What they don't teach in school is how the real world works, because it is fucking outrageous. What they teach is how to go be a cog in a machine, run by idiots.
They don't teach it by telling you, they teach it by making you sit still, listen and do arbitrary, idiotic tasks for 12 years.
Sure they teach you a thing or two along the way, but anyone would learn more from doing anything else they were interested in for 12 years.
That's the dirty little secret. If you let people do what they are interested in, they'll learn math, programming, exercise, health, whatever, because it'll be necessary to achieve their goals. But you can't make people who've had a taste of achieving their goals slave away their whole life to help some idiot achieve theirs. Plus most parents are fearful idiots who never treat children like human beings, they treat them like their personal pet project whose goal is to line up with society's idea of success. Pathetic. Oh well, that's people for you :)