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Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by cj on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @12:46PM (#30088831)
> How much better has wealth front done vs SPY, fee adjusted?

That comparison isn't really a good way to evaluate based on since it doesn't account for risk, only reward.

Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by endisneigh on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @12:49PM (#30088894)
Ok, but even if you pick an equivalently risky proposition with a robo adviser you’d inherently make less money due to the fee differential.

Furthermore if robo advisers really could make more money on a risk adjusted basis it would literally make them more money to use their own service than to sell it.

Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by cj on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @01:59PM (#30090096)
Other than robo advisors, what service exists where I can schedule a weekly transfer and automatically invest across 6-8 asset classes? (Many 401k providers do this, but I’m not aware of any post-tax investment accounts other than robo advisors)

If there’s a single ETF that will do what Wealthfront and others are doing, I’d switch away in a heartbeat if the fees were lower.

Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by kgwgk on Thursday January 27, 2022 @05:09AM (#30098501)
I don't know how much the "I can schedule a weekly transfer and automatically invest across 6-8 asset classes" is worth to you.

But if you go from $50k to $500k with them you will be paying ten times as much (depending on the fee structure, of course). At some point, it may not be worth it.

Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by hrez on Thursday January 27, 2022 @04:38AM (#30098269)
M1
Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by astrange on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @04:34PM (#30092242)
Why does Vanguard sell you ETFs instead of keeping them for themselves?
Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by endisneigh on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @05:59PM (#30093332)
Vanguard is not famous for actively managed funds.
Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by astrange on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @06:32PM (#30093706)
Neither are robos. Rebalancing according to some rules isn't active management.

Vanguard has more active management products, actually. Besides their Windsor fund, S&P 500 is an actively managed index.

Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by endisneigh on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @10:16PM (#30095764)
Robos are actively managed, just not by human, and their fees reflect this. If they’re not actively managed then they make even less sense since they’re more expensive than indices that have better historical returns…
Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by astrange on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:17AM (#30096512)
You can't invest in an index so the returns are fictional.

An index ETF sure, but it might be worth paying for tax optimization over that.

Re:UBS Acquires Wealthfront for $1.4B by endisneigh on Thursday January 27, 2022 @06:06AM (#30098965)
What I’m saying is that there’s no Sara to suggest even with tax harvesting it’s better than SPY. The expense ratio is literally 10X.

If I’m wrong feel free to walk me through a 10 year period where any robo advised fund of your choosing has better return, risk and fee adjusted.