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Re:Ask HN: Why does the modern web hate users? by hammyhavoc on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @08:15AM (#30085019)
I can't believe people are missing the obvious here.

Why are websites now less and less optimized? Because people use apps and APIs. Ergo, they're just fetching the data set.

CloudFlare Pages and GitHub Pages are bringing in a new era of fast, static websites. It isn't all doom and gloom. Furthermore, plenty of people are now using static site generator plugins with CMS like WordPress so that there's no database access required for each page load, which is really what slows things down.

Re:Ask HN: Why does the modern web hate users? by amatecha on Thursday January 27, 2022 @02:14AM (#30097248)
Yeah, this is why I turn more and more to alternative front-ends like Invidious for YouTube, scribe.rip for Medium, teddit for Reddit, and so on. On that note, I'm actually starting to feel like online services should be required to allow (or be forbidden from explicitly blocking) alternative front-ends. I should be allowed to interface with APIs with whatever client I want, and I am beginning to think that should be a right. Currently people using software and online services are basically completely at the mercy of software vendors who have basically zero motivation to respect the user. I'm not really willing to subject myself to very much BS on the web anymore and without these alternative front-ends I'd just completely opt out of the respective services.

Oh FWIW my personal site is static files built with Hugo SSG, and a minimum of JS. I don't think I will ever use a server-side technology for my personal site again. I do think a growing number of users are "seeing the light" in this regard.

Re:Ask HN: Why does the modern web hate users? by wusspuss on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @09:43AM (#30085976)
>CloudFlare Pages and GitHub Pages are bringing in a new era of fast, static websites.

Static site hosting with a brand name smashed onto it is a new era? GitHub itself btw is broken on palemoon for one thing. Not here to defend palemoon but it does show one thing: GitHub's frontend is over-engineered.

Re:Ask HN: Why does the modern web hate users? by hammyhavoc on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @10:01AM (#30086273)
If you think this is simply "hosting" then you're out of touch with why it's interesting. Instead of being served from a central server ala a VPS or colocated box, or even a central server augmented with a CDN, it is instead served from a ton of geographically-local servers. Oh yeah, and it starts at free, with unlimited bandwidth. This is without getting into Workers et al.

Not a GitHub Pages user, also not a Palemoon user, so couldn't say, but Palemoon is niche. There's not even an official macOS version.

Re:Ask HN: Why does the modern web hate users? by wusspuss on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:10AM (#30096467)
>it is instead served from a ton of geographically-local servers.

All owned by the same company. I'd agree about it being revolutionary if it was on some distributed p2p network like freenet, torrent, ipfs etc. But to call some company doing things in a slightly different manner a new era? Come on

Re:Ask HN: Why does the modern web hate users? by hammyhavoc on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:24AM (#30096551)
I said "interesting", not "revolutionary", to my knowledge anyway. If I did say "revolutionary", even I don't agree with me.