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Re:Ask HN: Gmail account security by eru on Monday January 24, 2022 @05:00AM (#30055487)
> I think it's definitely not unique to big corps, but an emergent property of a distributed and homogenous system of self interested agents, probably. It feels very game theoretical, at least. What's clear is these systems are becoming ubiquitous rapidly.

Not sure the homogenity is necessary?

To an extent, the market delivers what people are demanding.

For most people, Google's package of cheap or even free services with minimal hassle in the common case, but almost no recourse in bad cases, is compelling.

And for many it's a step up from having everything locally: I'd bet that more people lose their local data than get locked out of Google?

Re:Ask HN: Gmail account security by klabb3 on Monday January 24, 2022 @05:28AM (#30055746)
> Not sure the homogenity is necessary?

Oh, nice catch, I actually meant to write heterogeneous.

> I'd bet that more people lose their local data than get locked out of Google?

Probably. There's definitely some low hanging fruit/middle ground though. We desperately need to have ownership of the address itself, so we can transfer to different providers. Either with your own domain, or a domain provided by a truly neutral party, similar to phone numbers.

Re:Ask HN: Gmail account security by eru on Monday January 24, 2022 @06:34AM (#30056284)
Not sure about phone numbers. You can get them hijacked relatively easily, at least temporarily.