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Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by Mandelmus on Friday January 21, 2022 @11:39AM (#30025966)
Researching immortality or unnatural longevity isn't worth the investment for a society because a society of immortals becomes either stagnant or unsustainable. But making individual billionaires immortal is something billionaires might find worth investing in.
Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by kamarg on Friday January 21, 2022 @12:45PM (#30027071)
> Researching immortality or unnatural longevity isn't worth the investment for a society because a society of immortals becomes either stagnant or unsustainable.

This is said with an awful lot of certainty for something that's never been accomplished before. Do people and systems get stuck in their ways? Absolutely. But they also change for better and for worse. There's no guarantee/proof that living forever ends in stagnation or an unsustainable culture.

Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by whatshisface on Friday January 21, 2022 @12:07PM (#30026418)
>a society of immortals becomes either stagnant or unsustainable

Which society of immortals are you referring to?

Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by SuoDuanDao on Friday January 21, 2022 @02:39PM (#30028892)
Tolkein's Elves :)?

More seriously, it's a common theory that age-related diseases are an evolved adaptation because over time a species must form an equilibrium with its resource base.

Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by HWR_14 on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:43PM (#30032303)
Yes, but pretty much every other equilibrium based limit is something humans decided we didn't want anymore either.
Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by SuoDuanDao on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:36PM (#30032717)
We are better than other species at filling new niches. But being champion is no excuse for getting cocky.
Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by inglor_cz on Saturday January 22, 2022 @03:00AM (#30034670)
Our general mode of operation seems to be the very opposite. Getting cocky, causing some very untoward consequences, then learning from them.

I don't even think it is necessarily bad in toto. The other pole could look like stagnation fueled by indecisiveness and fear of possible consequences. I definitely know some individuals who spend their lives like that, and they don't seem to be happy.

Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by staticassertion on Friday January 21, 2022 @03:49PM (#30029801)
The problem with this conversation is that it's about immortality, which no one is going for right now. The best research is looking at addressing specific age related issues in order to increase your healthy years and, potentially, increase your lifespan by maybe a decade.

But the conversation is always "immortal billionaires".

It's a totally fake problem to talk about that.

Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by Koshkin on Friday January 21, 2022 @02:01PM (#30028317)
An immortal fascist dictator may be expected to get assassinated early on, versus people waiting for him to die from natural causes.
Re:A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth by inglor_cz on Saturday January 22, 2022 @02:37AM (#30034557)
The universe is huge and the Solar System alone could probably accomodate 50 billion humans. With something like artificial hibernation (we are discussing a pretty far future here), you could travel to nearby stars as well.

As for stagnation, there is an unspoken presumption built into your thought, namely that older rejuvenated people will gain younger bodies back, but that they will stay mentally old. I don't think this will be necessarily true. It rejuvenation works, it will have to work on the brain too, and rejuvenated people will revert to younger patterns of thinking as well. Only with more memories and experiences, which could actually improve their results. For example, they will be unlikely to join some populist cause if they burnt themselves twice already.