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Re:Tell HN: A Conversation Needs to Be Had over Subscription... by chii on Friday January 21, 2022 @06:52AM (#30022236)
> nobody expected to get updates for free

if there's a security vulnerability, i'm sure you'd expect the update to be free.

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Re:Tell HN: A Conversation Needs to Be Had over Subscription... by yjftsjthsd-h on Friday January 21, 2022 @07:57AM (#30022805)
Let's say feature updates make sense to pay for, bug fixes don't.
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Re:Tell HN: A Conversation Needs to Be Had over Subscription... by beowulfey on Friday January 21, 2022 @07:43PM (#30031873)
I mean, I remember the days when I didn’t expect free updates. That’s my whole point.

I don’t know if I can explain why. Maybe security wasn’t as big of a deal.

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Re:Tell HN: A Conversation Needs to Be Had over Subscription... by bosie on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:27AM (#30023170)
Why though?
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Re:Tell HN: A Conversation Needs to Be Had over Subscription... by Kbelicius on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:01AM (#30023554)
Because If I get a faulty vacuum cleaner I expect to be able to exchange it for a working one for free.
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Re:Tell HN: A Conversation Needs to Be Had over Subscription... by chii on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:14AM (#30023722)
and yet if a lock could be picked, you don't get to exchange it for another one that couldn't be! Analogies breakdown when compared too carefully.

I think software sellers is doing a courtesy when they provide security updates for free. They are not legally obligated to do it. The users are entitled to switch to a competitor however - by not having their data held hostage (which, i think modern laws don't properly address).

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Re:Tell HN: A Conversation Needs to Be Had over Subscription... by Kbelicius on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:28AM (#30023896)
> and yet if a lock could be picked, you don't get to exchange it for another one that couldn't be! Analogies breakdown when compared too carefully.

There are no locks that can't be picked. If it unlocks itself all the time you bet your ass that I'll get to exchange it for a new one. Maybe you should be more careful when making analogies.

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Re:Tell HN: A Conversation Needs to Be Had over Subscription... by chii on Friday January 21, 2022 @10:13AM (#30024555)
I picked the lock analogy deliberately, because like locks, there are no software that has no security vulnerabilities.
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Re:Tell HN: A Conversation Needs to Be Had over Subscription... by webmaven on Friday January 21, 2022 @01:13PM (#30027546)
> and yet if a lock could be picked, you don't get to exchange it for another one that couldn't be! Analogies breakdown when compared too carefully.

https://www.cycleryusa.com/articles/kryptonite-locks-recall-...

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