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Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by Arainach on Friday January 21, 2022 @01:06AM (#30019791)
To each their own. Linux DMs (including KDE, Gnome, and many others) are still way behind in basic UX flows like multimon and snapping windows, and Mac has barely even tried. Keyboard shortcuts for moving windows between monitors, snapping, launching pinned apps, etc. are also sorely lacking on alternatives. I use Linux (Gnome 3 these days), OS X, Windows, and Chrome OS on a daily basis and still prefer Windows for my personal devices.
Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by wastholm on Friday January 21, 2022 @01:39AM (#30019996)
To each their own indeed. For me, as someone who uses KDE/Plasma by choice and Windows because sometimes I have to, it has been a source of humor for years and years how an environment literally called Windows can have such hilariously bad window management. No point to focus, no configurable window shortcuts, no send to front/back, no minimizing a window when its application is "busy", bad and inconsistent visual indication of which window has focus...
Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by bayindirh on Friday January 21, 2022 @01:19AM (#30019857)
KDE has 95% of the things you've mentioned for at least 5 years, if not longer (I'm using KDE for more than a decade, so I don't remember exact dates).

I clearly remember that when Windows introduced auto-snapping/auto-scaling windows, I looked and giggled as yet another KDE feature made its way to one of the "bigger" environments.

Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by Zardoz84 on Friday January 21, 2022 @01:19AM (#30019860)
What ? I can't speak about Gnome and other DMs, but KDE experience with multimonitor, it's better. It simply works out of the box. I don't get monitors swapped aleatory. I can designated my primary screen without issues. Also, snapping windows was a feature on Linux DMs like decades ago!
Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by bayindirh on Friday January 21, 2022 @01:23AM (#30019886)
Multi monitor comfort in Linux is a relatively new thing. In the olden days, that thing was flat out painful.

It's really well working in these days, but it was not like that until recently. I remember setting up Xorg.conf to get my single monitor working as it should.

Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by salamandersauce on Friday January 21, 2022 @07:30AM (#30022494)
Ha. I still had to do it yesterday because the PPI of my screen is 141 and so Nvidia set it to that and KDE half followed along making everything have larger title bars and fonts even at 100% desktop scaling. I had to set it to ignore the monitor's true ppi and just use 96.
Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by jcelerier on Friday January 21, 2022 @03:35AM (#30020776)
What's "recently" for you ? The last time I had to write Xorg modelines must have been before Ubuntu 6.04
Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by bayindirh on Friday January 21, 2022 @03:42AM (#30020818)
5-6 years.

Yes, Auto configuring X.org is older than that, but drivers, Multi monitor setup and other related things came later than that.

Even if X had proper support for multiple monitors, drivers were very finicky at the beginning.

Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by jcelerier on Friday January 21, 2022 @05:14AM (#30021535)
weird, I wonder what distro you were using. Even 5-6 years ago, multi monitors just worked for me - hell, I had a retina screen at that time and it pretty much just worked too.
Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by okasaki on Friday January 21, 2022 @03:43AM (#30020830)
Editing xorg.conf became unnecessary around 2003 iirc. You either have a strange set up or a very good memory.
Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by bayindirh on Friday January 21, 2022 @03:49AM (#30020888)
I'm using Linux for ~20 years at this point. I remember fine tuning X.org after than that to fine tune behavior of ATI and nVidia drivers back in the day, around 2007-2008 IIRC.

While most of the work has vanished for single monitor setups around that time frame, multi-monitor setting wasn't very reliable and deterministic under xrandr came around and drivers added native support for that.

*: randr came around 2003: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/log/randr/randr.c?...

Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by oblio on Friday January 21, 2022 @04:27AM (#30021165)
I still had Ubuntu upgrades requiring me to edit the xorg.conf for a bog standard single CRT in about 2007 or so.

And I definitely touched xorg.conf a bunch of times even a few years later.

Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by jeffreygoesto on Friday January 21, 2022 @03:07AM (#30020588)
Jesus, those days of manual modeline hacking, because I could get an enormous, 42kg (had to carry it 6 stories up and later down), 21" fixed frequency Monitor from an old Workstation for small money...
Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by indymike on Saturday January 22, 2022 @07:57AM (#30036252)
You've clearly not used KDE in about 10 years if you think it doesn't have excellent snapping and multi monitor and multi desktop. VS KDE. Without powertoys is at parity with maybe kde4 in this area.
Re:The Windows 11 taskbar is an annoying step backward by pkulak on Friday January 21, 2022 @02:33AM (#30020337)
> Keyboard shortcuts for moving windows between monitors, snapping, launching pinned apps, etc. are also sorely lacking.

Allow me to show you this tiling window manager…