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Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by colechristensen on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @06:17PM (#30001896)
I think “intended for children” is the source of quite a lot of modern mental illness.

Your brain and body are quite plastic in different ways when you are young and become much more rigid as you grow out of childhood. Children are preparing for the world when they’re young and living in an artificial world much different than the one they will face as an adult.

Those feedback loops that were programmed when young in an artificial setting then just don’t deal well with the real world presented long after their ability to adapt has diminished.

Telling fictional stories that don’t pull punches which reflect the difficulties of the world might well be an evolutionary trait which helped prepare children for a dangerous world without exposing them to much of the actual danger.

Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by NoPicklez on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @09:06PM (#30003424)
I think a lot of fairy tales reflect the difficulties of the world, just in a way that is not devastating for children. There is usually always a struggle, sometimes followed with a reward and a moral lesson. Having said that, in life there isn't always a reward but the overall concept is healthy. Such that all aspects of life have challenges and if you follow your values and morals you will come out the other side.

Better life lessons learnt than many other stories on TV.

Besides, there comes a time in most kids lives there they move from fairy tales to adult movies, during the time their brains are still very plastic.

Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by AniseAbyss on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @10:23PM (#30004116)
I imagine that 1000 years ago parents too had to explain to their kids not to talk to strangers. Human society hasn't changed all that much on the basics.
Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by thaumasiotes on Thursday January 20, 2022 @12:38AM (#30005143)
> I imagine that 1000 years ago parents too had to explain to their kids not to talk to strangers.

Not at all. The modal kid never encountered a stranger. If you did meet one, not talking to him was an instinct followed by children and adults alike.

Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by teruakohatu on Thursday January 20, 2022 @02:06AM (#30005699)
Around 2000 years ago the city of Rome had 1 million people.

Even 8000 years ago human beings were not so distributed that they never encountered strangers. There were a few proto-cities back then with ~1,000+ people, which is enough for strangers on a regular basis.

Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by thaumasiotes on Thursday January 20, 2022 @03:04AM (#30006111)
> Around 2000 years ago the city of Rome had 1 million people.

And then as now, the urban population was not even reproducing at replacement level. The population of first-century Rome left zero genetic impact on Italy.

It was less of a problem then than now, since the urban population of the distant past was a negligible percentage of the total, whereas for us it's the majority.

Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by harperlee on Thursday January 20, 2022 @03:27AM (#30006282)
> The population of first-century Rome left zero genetic impact on Italy.

A million people left no genetic impact? Are you sure about that? Seems too far fetched even for an exaggeration.

Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by thaumasiotes on Thursday January 20, 2022 @02:23PM (#30013438)
The genetics of modern Italians show absolutely no trace of the immigrants we know were present in Rome. Any impact left by the population of Rome was indistinguishable from the existing genetics of the Italian countryside at the time, but we know that the actual population of Rome was very different from that of the Italian countryside.

From a genetic perspective, cities are just somewhere you go to die.

Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by eternalban on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:51PM (#30002758)
Conceptually your theory makes sense if the premise of "feedback loops" of situational awareness and effectively dealing with psychological & social & physical environment and conditions are in fact mapped out and conditioned by hearing and mental imagery alone.

I would challenge that premise and I'm sure someone out there has already ran the experiment to see which parts of the brain light up when listening to a story about X vs actually acting a part in a real world X scenario.

Re:The first fairy stories were never intended for children by d0mine on Thursday January 20, 2022 @02:21PM (#30013405)
It is a rather big assumption that fairytales were useful or even were intended as such.