The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority

Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by ekianjo on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @07:39AM (#29978147)

> and a quarter of his country remains unimmunized

Another ignorant author who does not know that natural immunity exists outside of vaccines... I.e those who recovered from COVID.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by imglorp on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @07:43AM (#29978188)

It's not the same though. Recovered patients can become reinfected. They can have long term effects all over the body. And finally, it will take millions of deaths to get there.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by herbst on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @07:47AM (#29978213)

Isn't exactly the same true for vaccinated people just with a difference probability?

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by toolz on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @08:01AM (#29978368)

Plenty of studies suggest natural immunity is more robust, so yeah different probability in favor of natural immunity.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by hestefisk on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @07:43AM (#29978186)

But unvaccinated people carry a higher load of virus, on average, and therefore pass it on to more people, on average.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by StingyJelly on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @08:02AM (#29978386)

On avearge That's mainly because among them are those who never had the virus / had it early. Viral load seems to correlate with time since prior immunization, be it recovery or vaccination. Regulations often ignore that and are only built around vaccination status.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by refurb on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @07:50AM (#29978243)

Unvaccinated but recovered from a prior infection? Doubtful.

The UK paper on Delta seemed to suggest that wasn’t true even for the unvaccinated-never infected as well. Google the Lancet article. Viral loads were similars, infection risk wasn’t that much lower for vaccinated. I think recovery was quicker by a day, maybe.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by hestefisk on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @07:54AM (#29978282)

https://theconversation.com/your-unvaccinated-friend-is-roug...

Research from Australia suggests otherwise. 20x.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by refurb on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @08:02AM (#29978381)

That’s unvaccinated, not recovered from an infection.

Also, got a journal article to reference? The UK data is pretty good for Delta. That is a quote by the health authority with no references given.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...

Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by peteradio on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @07:56AM (#29978304)

You are spreading misinformation, that link makes no reference to recovered individuals.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by hestefisk on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @07:57AM (#29978319)

How is it misinformation? I am talking in general terms, not recovered.

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Re:The Silent, Vacinated, Impatient Majority by peteradio on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @08:02AM (#29978387)

This entire thread is discussing recovered. Only your responses seem to remove that qualifier, if you want to discuss immune naive individuals perhaps find a relevant thread. You'll find it very difficult find immune naive individuals outside of full lockdown countries so their discussion seems odd in the context of nations like France or USA.

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