“I should hire some bottom of the barrel bootcamp graduates”.
Bootcamp graduates in this example is a derogatory name for sub-par devs. We know this because there is a stigma around bootcamp devs in the industry. If you said this, no one is doing the mental gymnastics of “oh, they are separating the great bootcampers from the bottom of the barrel”. No, they assume you look down on bootcamps. Context matters. History matters. Saying “bottom of the barrel Indian devs” in todays software industry, is a racist remark.
Right. And the context in this case is cost to run a company with a given headcount. The cost of 200 bottom of the barrel developers in America and 200 bottom of the barrel developers in India is substantial, which is why you have to include the location in this context.
If the context was talking about the efficiency of developers instead of cost you would have a point, but it isn't.
Way to move the goal posts. Do I need to explain this? You’ve contextualized the bucket in your new statement.
Why do you think that efficiency difference exists in the first place?
Maybe because Indian/Asian developers are not valued as much as other parts of the world.
Almost as if people treat and talk about them like the bottom of the barrel…
It’s a cycle that you continue to enforce by using that terminology.
Maybe Indian/Asian developer not sell their services at rates they consider cheap. It's a cycle that will continue if they keep selling their labor at low price.
> Who cares if the kids don’t eat?
Ah, I thought kids in poor countries could just eat virtues provided free of cost from otherwise no-good virtue signalers.
I explicitly said mistakes happen, chalking it up to accidental wording. Two comments up. [1]
And yes, I went very far out of my way to comment on the website I visit multiple times a day.
You can continue doing your word gymnastics. Again, “devs stationed in India” !== “Indian devs”. Yes, words are ambiguous, which is why it is important we try to get them right!
Because there is no existing, racist, “bottom of the barrel” stereotype around American devs.
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Have a good Sunday mate.
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But there’s a reason those guys are on Reddit and HN complaining they can’t pass whiteboard interviews and other people are not.
“Indian origin CEOs exist, so we can say derogatory things about the race as a whole”
The GP obviously broke the site guidelines by tossing in casual flamebait in a way that was guaranteed to be inflammatory, but if the rest of you had followed the site guidelines yourselves, by flagging the comment instead of posting dozens of replies and blowing it up into a completely off-topic flamewar with 100+ comments and counting, the damage would have been minimal instead of extreme.
Also, we've had to ask you about exactly this sort of thing in the past. That's not cool.
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