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Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by HideousKojima on Friday January 14, 2022 @02:06PM (#29938756)
Strong disagree for me. I'm starting a new job in less than two weeks, but the current job I'm leaving has been the best so far in my career. Wasn't perfect by any means but it exceeded most of my expectations by far. My new job is paying 60% more than my current job, that's my reason for switching and not much else.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by Osiris on Friday January 14, 2022 @03:18PM (#29939822)
If you were so happy why did you start looking for another job? People don't leave because someone gave them an offer out of the blue. They have to start looking in the first place and whatever triggered that search is what's important.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by lotsofpulp on Friday January 14, 2022 @05:06PM (#29941117)
I assume many people are smart enough to know that they need to increase earnings to gain security in life and stay ahead of inflation. Me being content at work is not going to pay the kids’ tuition, healthcare, or legal expenses. Or my expenses in 40 years.

A large amount of assets yielding healthy levels of passive income will.

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by hiq on Friday January 14, 2022 @03:46PM (#29940202)
> why did you start looking for another job?

I can think of the following, and there are probably others:

1. To know your market value so that you know what to ask for during your compensation review at your current company.

2. To practice interviewing skills when you don't need them, so that it's easier when you do

3. To network and learn about companies that might be relevant for you in the future (as in, you wouldn't accept an offer now, but if it looks nice you might apply again later, and if it doesn't you might consider it only as a last resort).

2. especially makes sense for coding interviews, and I've been advising the following to a few friends: ideally, one year before you actually want to apply, apply everywhere you can with such interviews. Your results won't matter anyway, you'll be able to apply again one year after, but you'll get a lot of real-world practice and an idea of what you might want to work on.

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by mehphp on Friday January 14, 2022 @06:54PM (#29942105)
That's not true at all. I just switched a few weeks ago for a 50% increase that I did indeed receive "out of the blue". Emailed by a recruiter, I turned them down, they were persistent, and I took it.

I was not actively looking and the thought of leaving hadn't crossed my mind.

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by HideousKojima on Friday January 14, 2022 @04:11PM (#29940499)
Because I'm trying to start a family and to move into a bigger house, and I knew that there were little to no opportunities for advancement/promotion at my current job. It's really not that complicated.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by manquer on Friday January 14, 2022 @07:04PM (#29942180)
You were unhappy there were no advancement opportunities so you started looking?, OP is saying the same thing, if it was perfect people generally don't look for new jobs.

It is not because of loyalty it is because we are risk averse, a new job is a lot of risk. Many things can go wrong you may not like that new job, or even purely financially it can be risky as a new company may not pay as promised, shutdown, you get fired pretty quick and may not find a job at same compensation , or variable/ equity compensation wasn't as good as promised/imagined. All of these scenarios have substantial financial risk.

To take that risk(even if only financial) there has to strong motivation.

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by HideousKojima on Friday January 14, 2022 @07:44PM (#29942456)
If I could have stayed doing the same thing I was (software development) for more pay I would have stayed. Might have gotten a bit stagnant/boring in a few more years but I would have been happy until then at least. The only potential advancement opportunity (salary-wise) would have involved changing over to being a DBA or a sort of DBA/developer hybrid role which would have been interesting (I would definitely prefer the hybrid role to being a pure DBA) but some statements from higher-ups about hiring freezes etc. made it clear that wouldn't happen any time soon (even though my direct manager was supportive and trying to help).
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by jahewson on Friday January 14, 2022 @04:31PM (#29940723)
This is not true at all. I get 3-5 recruiter emails per day many of which state comp up-front. Recently the numbers have got so high that I have to admit, it’s tempting, despite being perfectly happy in my current role.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by lazyasciiart on Friday January 14, 2022 @04:35PM (#29940762)
Maybe I should start opening those recruiter emails - I don't think the ones I have read ever included salary info...
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by HideousKojima on Friday January 14, 2022 @04:45PM (#29940874)
At least on Indeed 1/2 to 2/3rds of job postings for C# developers include salary ranges, and I'm sure it's similar for other languages. It's pretty nice for getting an idea of what you're worth.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by tester756 on Friday January 14, 2022 @05:27PM (#29941368)
> People don't leave because someone gave them an offer out of the blue. They have to start looking in the first place and whatever triggered that search is what's important.

You don't have to look around to know that you're underpaid, just talk to people from industry and they'll tell ya

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by j4yav on Friday January 14, 2022 @03:28PM (#29939961)
Recruiters are constantly contacting people these days. Some companies have reputations for paying well, so when you hear from them you sort of know what is coming.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by __turbobrew__ on Saturday January 15, 2022 @12:17AM (#29943769)
Inflation, cost of housing skyrocketing, etc. I’m looking for a new job because my current one does not pay enough to own a house any more. You basically have to make FAANG bux to own a house here so that is why I started looking.

Otherwise I have quite high job satisfaction.

Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by politician on Friday January 14, 2022 @09:53PM (#29943103)
7% inflation is enough for some people to start looking.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by dt3ft on Friday January 14, 2022 @04:02PM (#29940384)
In my case I did not look for another job. I was scouted (ex boss recommendation) and took the offer. I bet there are many others like me - frequently getting offers.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by TulliusCicero on Friday January 14, 2022 @04:09PM (#29940480)
It can be true that the job itself is largely great and also that the person knows they could get a lot more money elsewhere, which causes them to start looking.
Re:Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? by skinkestek on Saturday January 15, 2022 @06:19PM (#29951475)
Late, but I will note that the more people pay the nicer they treat you and the less they expect from you.