Cyberattack hits Ukrainian government websites amid Russia tensions

Re:Cyberattack hits Ukrainian government websites amid Russi... by paganel on Friday January 14, 2022 @08:18AM (#29934076)

Romanian here and not Polish, but Ukraine does hold (former Romanian) territory that it was handed to it by the Soviets, and some part of it by Stalin himself, Ukraine seems to have no qualms about that part of Russian rule.

A conversation can be had about Northern Bukovina, as the Habsburgs had stolen it first (in the 1770s) before it temporarily came back under Romanian rule in 1918, but the county of Herța[2] had been under Romanian rule ever since the first Romanian principalities were formed (in the late 1300s in the case of the Principality of Moldova). This latter piece of land was given directly to Ukraine by Stalin.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukovina#Division_of_Bukovina

[2] https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her%C8%9Ba

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Re:Cyberattack hits Ukrainian government websites amid Russi... by varjag on Friday January 14, 2022 @08:56AM (#29934425)

The convention post WW2 was that the borders in Europe stay where they are, otherwise there is no end unfurling that. AFAIK Romanian-Ukrainian border is not contested.

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Re:Cyberattack hits Ukrainian government websites amid Russi... by paganel on Friday January 14, 2022 @11:43AM (#29936757)

Well, de facto that convention wasn't respected, see Yugoslavia. Also, Ukraine did get something from us even after WW2 [1]

I agree about the unfurling part, I was just trying to point out that the Ukrainian state crying about "the big bad Russian wolf" when that bad wolf is a major reason behind their actual foundation as a State is a bit hypocritical. Even more so when the Ukrainian state expects us, their neighbours, to join in in their battles against the Russians.

[1] https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insula_%C8%98erpilor

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Re:Cyberattack hits Ukrainian government websites amid Russi... by throwaway48292 on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:37PM (#29937402)

If you agree about the unfurling, what you do want them to do?

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Re:Cyberattack hits Ukrainian government websites amid Russi... by paganel on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:25PM (#29938089)

Resolve their conflicts locally, don’t drag me into a war for your cause.

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Re:Cyberattack hits Ukrainian government websites amid Russi... by varjag on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:33PM (#29938222)

I had a teacher who used to expel both bully and their victim out of classroom to keep it orderly.

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Re:Cyberattack hits Ukrainian government websites amid Russi... by varjag on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:32PM (#29938206)

I don't think any neighbouring state has annexed anything of Yugoslavia.

> Even more so when the Ukrainian state expects us, their neighbours, to join in in their battles against the Russians.

Got in to NATO, raise up the ladder!

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Re:Cyberattack hits Ukrainian government websites amid Russi... by hdjjhhvvhga on Friday January 14, 2022 @09:57AM (#29935197)

So what is your conclusion on that: should the border be contested? If so, this would lead to a war. Would the citizen of both countries be happy about it? Or do they prefer to live in peace?

The only people interested in rekindling these kind of conflicts are the ones from Kremlin (note: not Russians, because Russians just like any other normal people don't want any war). For everyone else this would just lead to endless suffering.

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