Russia says Ukraine talks hit 'dead end', Poland warns of risk of war

Re:Russia says Ukraine talks hit 'dead end', Poland warns of... by mrguyorama on Thursday January 13, 2022 @02:32PM (#29925576)

Yes, and we did the same thing to mexico in order to grab texas. How the heck does this change how bad it is?

What's the point of saying "America bad too"? So? America HAS done awful things in the past, that's not valid justification for a hostile annexation of another country's land.

Topics on Russia ALWAYS have whataboutism nonsense. It seems supporters of Russian actions so badly want the rest of the world to be shitty too, as if that would justify their actions instead of condemn them as well as everyone else

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Re:Russia says Ukraine talks hit 'dead end', Poland warns of... by bumby on Thursday January 13, 2022 @02:39PM (#29925690)

Being HN, I may have given too much credit that a comment would be taken at face value and not focused through a nationalistic lens or viewed as some sort of attack.

I made no claims that it changes whether the practice is morally or ethically correct. I also didn't claim "America bad too."

I merely pointed out another data point relevant to the GP comment about it being an old tactic to annex land.

*btw, it's Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and parts of California. The book Blood and Thunder is a great read about the history of expansion of the West

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Re:Russia says Ukraine talks hit 'dead end', Poland warns of... by shashurup on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:47PM (#29927342)

I believe the reason is that russians often perceive western worldview as a voice from the ivory tower of free world implying some kind of moral superiority. The whataboutism is just an awkward attempt to decline this very moral superiority.

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