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Re:Russia says Ukraine talks hit 'dead end', Poland warns of... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday January 13, 2022 @02:04PM (#29925136)
> Mexico and Canada join Russian federation and Russia start building bases there. And this is despite Russia promising not to do that.

NATO members are not annexed by America. Ukraine isn't part of NATO, and has had no realistic path to membership for some time. And a good way to get American bases in Ukraine is to threaten to invade it.

Re:Russia says Ukraine talks hit 'dead end', Poland warns of... by Ygg2 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @07:16PM (#29928898)
From Russian POV there isn't much of a difference. You basically see your enemy build installation just outside of your backyard.

Sure analogy, ain't perfect, and it's too late to edit. But say they join Russian led pact and Russian build basses there. I'm pretty sure America would throw as big hissy fit as Russia did.

> And a good way to get American bases in Ukraine is to threaten to invade it.

It's a great deterrent as well. NATO members have a policy, attack one, you attack us all, yes. But they also prohibit members that have problematic borders with non-NATO powers.

Adding a member like Ukraine means essentially getting ready for (nuclear) war with Russia. And NATO is, and probably won't be ready.

Seeing list of NATO's recent "victories" seems like a compilation of US greatest fails (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya). So Russia is calling NATO/US bluff.