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Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by IshKebab on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:07AM (#29918465)
Yeah same in the UK. 25 days is the norm. 28 days is good. 30 days is very rare. Also nobody gets paid overtime, the company's pension contribution is 5% of your salary.

Yes benefits are better in Europe, but not so much that you're better off earning $100k here than $200k in America.

Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by nivenkos on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:33AM (#29918678)
And you will rarely even earn $100k.

Like I live in a European capital and am just below $100k after almost 8 years of experience.

We're just colonised by massive US corporations which ship the profits back to the US (and avoid as much tax as they can!).

Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by wreath on Thursday January 13, 2022 @07:35AM (#29920089)
> We're just colonised by massive US corporations which ship the profits back to the US (and avoid as much tax as they can!).

We're colonized by the over-regulation that doesn't appreciate entrepreneurship and stifles innovation. That's why big tech almost never starts in Europe. For better or for worse.

Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by weatherlite on Thursday January 13, 2022 @05:46AM (#29919236)
100K is really high for Europe unless you're in Switzerland/UK. Was living in Netherlands and 85K Euro is really really good, that's probably the top 10% of engineering earners.
Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by episteme on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:13AM (#29918513)
But does this include bank holidays? We have 8(?) paid bank holidays in the UK so even 22 days is in reality 30. There are much fewer in the US.
Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by dfawcus on Thursday January 13, 2022 @06:17AM (#29919447)
The UK implementation of the WTR requires that (full time) works have a minimum of 28 days paid leave (including the Bank/Public holidays - of which there about 8).

Contract normally specify the paid leave excluding such Bank Holidays, so will be a minimum of 20. It is only the days above those 20 where the employer is giving one something extra.

Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by comp_throw7 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @11:28PM (#29930597)
Err, what? The company I work for (in the US) has like 13-14 paid holidays, and recently gave everyone an extra 3 days off right before the New Year. I think we probably have one or two more than average, but not by that much.
Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by IshKebab on Thursday January 13, 2022 @11:30AM (#29922656)
It doesn't, so yeah standard is 33 days including bank holidays. How many are there in the US?
Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by mantas on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:24AM (#29918607)
Why would you include national holidays into vacation days? National holiday is more like an extra sunday. You can't move it for example if you're on a medical leave through it.
Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by richrichardsson on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:51AM (#29918849)
I worked for a company in the UK who allowed the option to work on Bank Holidays and take those days in lieu, was great way to actually get some developing done without the constant interruption of working in an open plan office.
Re:I think I know why you can't hire engineers right now by rejschaap on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:43AM (#29918777)
You can't move it, but you do get paid. So it's worth something.