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Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by charcircuit on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @06:25PM (#29914262)
because if they didn't make iphones, ipod touches, and ipads you would get 0% revenue instead of 70%
Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by AlexandrB on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @07:22PM (#29914970)
That's facile. If no one made apps for these platforms then they would not be nearly as popular. Remember the "There's an App For That" marketing campaign? That's not mentioning the fact that other phone/computing platforms exist where an app could capture some percentage of revenue you get from the App Store.

There's an element of symbiosis between Apple and app developers.

Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by charcircuit on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @08:11PM (#29915453)
>There's an element of symbiosis between Apple and app developers.

Which is why they take a 30% cut.

Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by passivate on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @09:36PM (#29916124)
30% is insane, but lets keep the number aside for a moment.

If the user chose app A over app B then specifically what help has Apple provided to the App creator of A to justify the 30%? Apple's argument is they're bringing customers. But even if they do nothing one App is going to get the customer anyway. Also, Apple gets paid for advertising Apps and services to end users, so again, what are they doing to bring in customers to specific apps?

Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by charcircuit on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @10:14PM (#29916379)
>what are they doing to bring in customers to specific apps?

They are making all the devices your app runs on. They are putting your app in their app store. They could remove your app from the app store and 0 customers would come to your app.

Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by passivate on Thursday January 13, 2022 @01:38AM (#29917531)
What has Apple done to bring the customer to App A versus App B? Please answer the question - if you have an answer, rather than deflecting.

>They are putting your app in their app store. They could remove your app from the app store and 0 customers would come to your app.

They're getting paid for that, so they're doing their job.

Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by charcircuit on Thursday January 13, 2022 @09:29AM (#29921074)
>Please answer the question

I don't know. I have released 0 apps and own 0 apple devices. I have never used their app store, so I do not have enough information to answer. I believe that question is irrelevant because apple is providing you a platform regardless about what apps they try to get people to install.

Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by passivate on Thursday January 13, 2022 @01:14PM (#29924371)
Everybody and everything can "provide a platform" if you do enough mental gymnastics. The AWS infrastructure you do you business on 'provides a platform'. The networking devices that route customer traffic 'provide a platform', the browser API 'provides a platform', the CPU that you code runs on also 'provides a platform'. "Providing a platform" doesn't entitle someone to grab 30% of sales from a business. If I rent office space, I pay the rent which is a mostly fixed amount, I don't pay them 30% of sales from my business - Yes, not a perfect analogy, but you get the point! Grabbing 30% of sales is just unethical, but that is just my view.
Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by charcircuit on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:02PM (#29926799)
Yes, it's easy to create a platform. If you don't want to give a platform 30% of your sales then don't sell things on that platform. Simple as.