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Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by amelius on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @06:12PM (#29914104)
There is a mutual benefit. More apps means that Apple benefits from a stronger platform (and can sell more copies of iDevices/iOS). That's why Microsoft never charged 30% for the privilege of selling an app on MSWindows, back in the old days.

A platform is largely "made" by external developers who contribute to the platform. It is unfair to start charging them (or anyone who comes later) for being on the platform.

Of course, Apple execs, who have no pride in making things but only in extracting money out of things, will have a different opinion on this.

Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by ASalazarMX on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @06:30PM (#29914328)
> A platform is largely "made" by external developers who contribute to the platform. It is unfair to start charging them (or anyone who comes later) for being on the platform.

> Of course, Apple execs, who have no pride in making things but only in extracting money out of things, will have a different opinion on this.

I think they've always known, that's why they created an artificial ecosystem where this equation is backwards. No developer can harm Apple, but Apple can harm the biggest of developers on a whim.

Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by rekoil on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:37AM (#29918728)
And this is the issue as I see it. Apple have made a device they know will be used a certain way, a general purpose computing device, but they are the only ones who can decide what software is allowed on it. I believe this should be illegal, either you've made a purpose-specific device and can impose a lot of restrictions on usage, or you've made a general purpose computing device, and once you've done that I believe there needs to be laws that say an owner of such a device must be allowed to personally decide what software runs on it. That means:

- Ability to unlock bootloader if I want to

- Ability to load software on the device unrestricted

Computers always worked like this, so we never had to regulate it, but now that corporations have discovered the loophole we really need to impose regulations. If we don't then markets like the App Store will never be fair.

Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by amelius on Thursday January 13, 2022 @05:05AM (#29918959)
I think governments are slowly addressing "platforms". Not just computing platforms, but platforms in general. E.g. shopping platforms, gig-platforms. Platforms are like an economy inside an economy, with the platform-company being the regulator, and this can be a bad thing (much worse than if the government was the regulator).
Re:Apple execs: Let's take a 30% cut of Uber and Lyft's memb... by rekoil on Thursday January 13, 2022 @05:15AM (#29919028)
Exactly, the best example with regards to the App Store is Apples own participation in large swaths of it with both iCloud storage (Dropbox, Google Drive, Box, etc), Apple TV+ (Netflix, Disney+, Amazon Prime Video, etc), or Apple Music (Spotify, Tidal, whatever Google has called their service for 2022, etc).

In each of these categories Apple are competing unfairly by demanding their competitors pay them 30% for the privilege of reaching over half the population of every first world country.