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Re:DMV ‘revisiting’ its approach to regulating Tesla’s publi... by marricks on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:31AM (#29903083)
It’s a new technology which no one else is testing in the real world with actual drivers at such a scale. Onus is on Tesla to provide data for others to verify the claim that it’s safe.
Re:DMV ‘revisiting’ its approach to regulating Tesla’s publi... by slg on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @04:14AM (#29904075)
Isn't it a catch 22? How do you provide the data that it is safe without testing it to collect the data?
Re:DMV ‘revisiting’ its approach to regulating Tesla’s publi... by marricks on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @11:27AM (#29908814)
It would be but Tesla charged ahead and put its vehicles on the road.
Re:DMV ‘revisiting’ its approach to regulating Tesla’s publi... by slg on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:29PM (#29909959)
Well yes, that is my point. How else would they ever acquire that data if they didn't charge ahead? You are asking them to accomplish an impossible task to release the data without having a way to acquire it.
Re:DMV ‘revisiting’ its approach to regulating Tesla’s publi... by bpodgursky on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:48AM (#29903170)
I don't think this is a good faith answer; feels more like "I don't have a good answer for why this is a problem, so I'm going to punt it onto you to convince me"
Re:DMV ‘revisiting’ its approach to regulating Tesla’s publi... by mellavora on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @03:51AM (#29903932)
Disagree. It is a good faith answer which states standard practice for safety standards.

Burden of proof is on Tesla to show that FSD is safe, not on the DMV to prove that it isn't.

You are welcome to argue that this principle is in need of reform. People may or may not agree with you. The discussion might be interesting.

But like it or not, the underlying principle for an exception to an established safety principle is that the burden of proof is on Tesla.

Re:DMV ‘revisiting’ its approach to regulating Tesla’s publi... by Kbelicius on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @02:38AM (#29903478)
The only ones who have the hard data are Tesla and you are expecting somebody else to provide it. Are you serious?