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Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by emptyfile on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:31AM (#29890151)
> But I understand why that wasn’t an option at the time.

explain

Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by hannob on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:34AM (#29890186)
The renewables buildout was always tightly coupled with the nuclear phaseout in the political discourse.

The idea that you could've kept nuclear, still have the renewables buildout and close coal early wasn't a political position anyone in any relevant position was advocating for.

Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by emptyfile on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @08:36AM (#29891277)
Right.

It wasn't a political option.

They could've done it, easily, and it was the sensible thing to do.

Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by IAmEveryone on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:39AM (#29890251)
The slower phaseout of coal is about employment and, to a lesser degree, regional "identity" issues far more than energy.

The coal industry was at some point the country's largest. It's also older than all other in the industrial sector, since coal was the raw material fueling the industrial revolution.

As such, it became the raison d'etre for whole regions. The Ruhr area in west Germany grew from Iowa-level population density to New York State levels on coal. Unions, as a concept, got started in the coal mines. I recently saw a bunch of news broadcasts from the late 80s/early 90s and among 10 of them, eight or so featured labor issues in the sector. Until reunification, it was the most salient issue in politics.

Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by ivan_gammel on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:41AM (#29890272)
It was right after the Fukushima disaster which was a last straw. Press coverage of nuclear energy by then was mostly negative thanks to Greenpeace and their campaigns against disposal of nuclear waste, history of Chernobyl explosion was still fresh, so politically keeping nuclear afloat was a risk. And of course, when calculating the real costs (i.e. including long-term nuclear waste storage and monitoring) it appeared not so attractive option to keep it.
Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by ketzu on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:33AM (#29890179)
There was no significant public will or movement to get out of coal 10 years ago. It was never even discussed.
Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by stewbrew on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:34AM (#29890198)
Wind and solar are cheaper than nuclear. There is no solution yet to the final deposition of nuclear waste.
Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by selfhoster11 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:39AM (#29890253)
There may be a reduced need for final deposition, if the successive generations of reactors are good enough at recycling the fuel used by the earlier generations. I'm not sure what the limit for that is, but it might be possible to cut down on waste by a huge amount.
Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by Zardoz84 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:38AM (#29890240)
You know that are reactors that burns long life nuclear waste ?
Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by stewbrew on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:45AM (#29890320)
Without any remainders? No? What would you call these?
Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by Ygg2 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:39AM (#29890262)
Yeah, you just build peaker plants to help renewables. What are peaker plants? Fossil fuels (natural gas)
Re:Why Germans remain so jittery about nuclear power by stewbrew on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:44AM (#29890310)
There are other means to buffer energy.