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Re:Leaving academia by SOMA_BOFH on Monday January 10, 2022 @11:26PM (#29887533)
>the sheer incompetence of HR

please expound. i am in a similar predicament and feel like a lone voice in the wild when trying to express this to my peers. i can't tell if they don't see what i do or if they are on board with it.

Re:Leaving academia by avs733 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @12:02AM (#29887785)
E.g., (1) it took us 7 months to hire a (US citizen) post doc. (2) we lost a faculty candidate because HR took so long to generate an offer letter that the person applied for and started another job between when they got a verbal offer and when they got a written offer letter.

HR is completely non responsive and on the off chance you get in contact with them you get one of three answers:

- you're dumb because you didn't know about this other form/rule/policy

- you actually need to talk to X (typically the person who sent me to them)

- the policy from last time changed, or are claimed to have changed

Re:Leaving academia by jason_s on Sunday January 23, 2022 @12:37PM (#30048228)
That doesn't sound too much worse than some HR in industry...

OT: could I ask you some questions about another thread (semiconductor fabs), privately? My twitter contact info is in my profile.

Re:Leaving academia by SOMA_BOFH on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @01:19AM (#29888218)
amen. thank you. unfortunately similar challenges exist in industry enterprise environments. small companies can be immune from it.
Re:Leaving academia by avs733 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @08:34AM (#29891257)
I've worked at a bunch of places...honestly small company/startup HR scares me just as much.

Somewhere in there is a happy balance between 'no HR' and an 'HR run organization'. I haven't experienced it, but I would choose big companies over academia in a heart beat