Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by hcknwscommenter on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:40PM
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A vaccine objector's personal freedom should end where bad choices (not to vax) undermine my own personal freedoms to live a healthy and free life.
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Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by AnimalMuppet on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:51PM
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Sometimes we buy that argument, and sometimes we don't.
Take drunk driving, for example. We don't give people the freedom to do that. On the other hand, we do allow people to smoke and to eat unhealthily, both of which impose costs on the rest of us. So there seems to be a balance - we allow some behavior that impacts our personal freedoms, but not egregious impacts.
So: If someone doesn't get vaccinated, how bad is the impact to you? Given that vaccinated (and boosted) people can still get infected and spread the infection, how bad is the impact to your personal freedom to live a healthy and free life if someone doesn't get vaccinated?
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by powerslacker on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:58PM
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What makes you say that? What is your reasoning? Just because you say so does not make it so, nor does it make it logical, reasonable, or enforceable. We have a legal framework for making these kinds of decisions in the United States. While I understand your position and can see some of its merit it's not about how you feel things should be but about providing a system of rights and powers that prevent the government from spiraling out of control.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by swader999 on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:01PM
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Relevant argument if these vaccines reduced transmission in a meaningful way.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by CabSauce on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:41PM
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The vaccines do reduce transmission, so it is a relevant argument?
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116597
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by swader999 on Monday January 10, 2022 @06:29PM
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Alpha and Delta lol.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by ryan93 on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:53PM
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Doesn’t apply to this virus since vaccines don’t prevent transmission
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by missingrib on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:16PM
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It does if his living a healthy life depends on hospitals not being 100% full of unvaccinated people being treated for a completely preventable illness.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by nathanaldensr on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:50PM
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Tortuous logic, to be sure.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by missingrib on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:40PM
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Not sure how.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by spookthesunset on Monday January 10, 2022 @07:39PM
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In what way is Covid a “preventable” illness?
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by CabSauce on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:42PM
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"prevent", no. Reduce, yes.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116597
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
by arrrg on Monday January 10, 2022 @07:58PM
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That’s just not true. This is some weird misunderstanding. Or a failure of people to think in anything but black and white?
Vaccines reduce transmission. They do not eliminate transmission completely.