I would love to try elixir, but JetBrains still does not have an IDE for it. I'm addicted to their IDEs.

I did try the community made plug-in for elixir, but had trouble getting the debugger to work which was a show stopper for me.

Sorry I had to intervene here. I had the same sentiment about IDE support for Elixir from using the mediocre IntelliJ Plugin.

However... after dabbling a bit I discovered VS Code + Remote Containers Plugin (because of Docker) + ElixirLS + other minor Elixir plugins that have turned my Elixir development experience into pure bliss. I haven't used the debugger in the IDE yet but I am 99% sure it's gonna work out of the box. Happy to try and share the setup if you want to try it out.

You probably don't want to use an ide-driven debugger for elixir, you'll want to use :dbg which has a different "conceptual model" than what you are used to and doesn't map well onto Conventional debuggers.

It's simply not the same due to the extreme high degree of concurrency in the beam VM

Well, no I actually do want that in my local environment where the only request is my own.

The fact that you are telling me that I don't want something, is why people some people find the Elixir community off-putting.

> the only request is my own

Literally, elixir doesn't work like that. There is a bunch of other stuff running around in the VM, even if you don't ask for it. It's like an operating system.

> is why people some people find the Elixir community off-putting

I mean ok. Note that I said "you probably". I'm just coming from a lot more experience than you have. But sure, keep giving yourself excuses to be closed minded. It really sounds like you went into the whole thing with the "let me find a reason to hate elixir" mindset, and not the "let me see what people are raving about mindset". Anyways, you're the one missing out.

> Literally, elixir doesn't work like that. There is a bunch of other stuff running around in the VM, even if you don't ask for it. It's like an operating system.

And yet, it does. Here's proof that you're wrong, a screenshot of the community Elixir plugin paused on a breakpoint, all the variables inspectable/modifiable and you can even jump around the stack: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KronicDeth/intellij-elixir...

The problem was that I could not get the plugin to work consistently, but when it did work it was great.

> I'm just coming from a lot more experience than you have... giving yourself excuses to be closed minded....Anyways, you're the one missing out.

Ah huh, I'm sure...

Well, I did a little bit of research on Elixir a couple of years ago, so I felt like I had that covered. Using Kotlin + Ktor was also tempting.

it's way different now. I've actually never deployed elixir on a deployment service till last week (either: "was R&D and never deployed to prod", "I ran elixir on-prem inside a DC", "my prod environments have been managed by ops team"). It was surprisingly easy, had my first deploy (including installing the service provider's tool) in about... 3 hours?