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Re:Health care is turning into a consumer product by JumpCrisscross on Monday January 10, 2022 @07:28AM (#29873762)
> NHS (despite fairly extreme under-funding) has better health outcomes for patients than in the US

The American system’s problem is exclusion, not quality of care. If you get care in America, your outcomes are among the best in the world.

Re:Health care is turning into a consumer product by rg111 on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:05AM (#29874162)
Someone told me this a few years back and it stuck with me.

"American healthcare is the best in the world like sportscars- Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW, Bugatti, etc. are the best cars in the world. Surely they both are the bests in the world- but only for the small percentage of people that can actually afford them."

This is sad.

(Many, including me, wouldn't buy a sportscar even if they could afford one, and sportscars aren't the "best" in their opinion. But this comparison drives the point home.)

Re:Health care is turning into a consumer product by nicoburns on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:32AM (#29874488)
I think you're mostly right. Although there are exceptions. Consider to opioid crisis. That's a case where profit motive directly leads to poorer quality care.

Regardless of that, high quality care isn't much good if you can't access it.

Re:Health care is turning into a consumer product by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:28AM (#29874446)
I would argue a care that is beyond my affordability is bad quality of care.
Re:Health care is turning into a consumer product by CraigJPerry on Monday January 10, 2022 @07:34AM (#29873822)
Yeah you’re right, s/patients/citizens/